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Hi Gary,
Hammond Suzuki is making the B3 again.
http://www.hammondorganco.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=65&Itemid=119
But, it doesn’t sound like the original!
8-)
John
#911
From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:07 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000D nice review with photos
I think it can possibly be compared tothe old exotic sports car. You can buy a new car today that performs notonly better but
is reliable as well…..however thedriving experience is not duplicated…the smell of burning oil, the sound of theengine, etc.
I really enjoyed driving the oldFerraris but if I was looking for the ultimate performance as well as somethingI could drive
everyday it would not be mychoice. I think Tony would understand this as he is both a Mellotron andExotic car guy. What
makes one “better” than the other issubjective but in a mix after processing in the recording process I thing 99.9%of listeners
would be unable to tell thedifference. Some of those that might be able to tell are on this list buteven they would probably
be guessing to some extent. Thereis still enough of a market to support two Mellotron manufacturers although theprice is
high and I would venture to guess thenumber sold is low. In low numbers the price is necessarily high….Imagineif someone
tried to manufacture B3s today….I amsure some could be sold but the price would be staggering. …..my 2cents….fire away!
J
Gary
From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:37 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000D nice review with photos
That's hardly the point. I'm not sayingthat samplers (ROMplers) have no place, I'm saying that they lack the characterthat a real Mellotron has. The real thing is far more organic. I like myrecords, tapes and CDs. I have perhaps a thousand or more recorded liveperformances. I enjoy them too. but once recorded, they sound the same everytime I play them. Playing a CD has nothing to do with making music. Playing aninstrument does, whether it is a M4000d or a M4000 or an M400. I prefer the latter.
In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:30:18 P.M.Eastern Daylight Time, feline1@feline1.co.ukwrites:
Yeah,
and I bet you never buy records or CDs,
cos they sound the same every time you play them -
it's kinda lacking in soul compared to going to a gig.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> You can take the M4000D and manipulate it to be idiosyncratic in certain
> ways. But those idiosyncrasies will be the same to every sound. The
> character of a Mellotron is derived from how it plays its tapes, variancesfrom
> frame to frame, tape age, keyboard adjustment, etc. It makes each oneunique.
> Every M4000D will be exactly like every other one. Not a bad thing really,
> but a little soulless. When I think of a Mellotron, I think of a tape
> replay machine. The Mellotron sounds that come out of an iPad are nodifferent
> except the way they are accessed. The sampling rate may be different butthe
> concept is the same.The iPad delivers the sounds but imparts no character
> to them.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/19/2011 8:37:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> tron400@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Looks like my last reply didn't make it.
>
> The last frame I bought has tuned Cello/M400 Violins/Flute. Sure, the
> Violins are MkII Violins EQ'd for the M400, but the EQ, as well as thetuning,
> was done by Streetly, so there's a degree of authenticity there (like100%).
>
> I'd love to play around with an M4000D for a few days. It seems to be a
> practical machine for those who don't want to own a tape replay machineand a
> good supplement to an M400. But I don't think electronics can ever
> accurately imitate the electromechanical idiosyncracies of a Mellotron.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com), "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > so if you bought a new tape rack and played an E Major chord and the
> fifth was recorded out of tune, you'd prefer that over buying a digitalunit
> with all the notes properly tuned and de-noised?
> > Even your Mellotron library was recorded and EQ'd with someone else's
> idea of how it should sound.
> > I just don't get it, I guess.
> >
> >
> > --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com), "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's one thing to alter the sound of your Mellotron or samples,but
> it's another thing to have someone else decide for you how it should
> fundamentally sound.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com), "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > do you think Mike Pinder never did any"tampering" to make his units
> sound "better"? Geeezus....to me the M4000D is the outgrowth ofall the
> years of addressing the complaints about exactly what was wrong with thetape
> system by all the major artists (tuning, noise, etc.)
> > > > Do you think if Harry Chamberlin had this technology at hisdisposal
> he would have used tapes?
> > > > It may not be a "real Mellotron/Chamberlin" inthe eyes of the
> hardcore obsessives but for me it's a completely normal development in the
> lineage and deserves the name.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>