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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Saw the Moodies 2 Wednesdays ago

From: john barrick <barrickjohn262@gmail.com>
Date: 2011-06-06

One thing to keep in mind about the "tronnist", Sean, is that he's not a Moody, he's a hired gun, and as so, is more than likely doing pretty much what Justin and John are telling him to.  I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
johnbarrick


On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:04 PM, David Jacques <djacques@csulb.edu> wrote:
 

Sounds like 3 Violins under TONS of reverb... 


Which is one of the reasons why King Crimson dropped the Moody's producer (Tony Clarke) from their first album....

Now, of you are listening to the album cut, the orchestra comes in during the final bridge... so that may be what you are hearing.



On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:43 PM, john.mcnamara65 wrote:

on nights in white satin, i'm hearing the 3 strings in the verse, mkii brass in bridge beginning and then what is going on at the end of the bridge?

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, David Jacques <djacques@...> wrote:
>
> He sometimes used a mixture of 3 Violins and Flute, plus Mixed Brass 
> ("Just a Singer"), and sax... Plus a few others...
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:14 PM, john.mcnamara65 wrote:
> 
> > Very Interesting! Unaware of the swell pedal! gawd! I'm in a cover 
> > band in which i play mostly guitar. But I have a usb keyboard and a 
> > laptop and introduced the keyboard to the guys recently. Happily we 
> > will be playing nights in white satin and tuesday afternoon. I dont 
> > have a volume pedal for the usb keyboard but at least i can use the 
> > volume slider! As a side note.... what other tron sounds did Mike 
> > use on NIWS besides the MKII 3 violins? Cello?
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, David Jacques 
> > <djacques@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, you would think that it would be an HONOR to play those
> > > mellotron parts, and any decent musician would be able to copy the
> > > parts exactly with the right sounds (samples).
> > >
> > > It kind of bugs us as we would all love that gig!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Sean wrote:
> > >
> > > > Finally have time to report.
> > > >
> > > > Very enjoyable. They were at Visalia's Fox Theater, a mere 12 
> > miles
> > > > from my house. No way I was passing that up.
> > > >
> > > > They had very good energy throughout their two sets, and they were
> > > > musically spot on. It was quite a treat.
> > > >
> > > > Took my fiance, my dad, and grandmother. (his mom.) Anne sat with
> > > > me, my dad and grandma sat in the front row as she's wheelchair
> > > > bound. She must have been clapping along as best as she could 
> > (with
> > > > her partially paralyzed left arm from a nasty stroke) or 
> > something,
> > > > as Justin and John kept waving at her specifically. After the 
> > first
> > > > set was over the second drummer, Gordon Marshall went directly to
> > > > her and handed her his drumsticks. We're going to have to build a
> > > > display case for those.
> > > >
> > > > They did play a mix of both their classic tunes and their Octave 
> > and
> > > > beyond pop dreck. (I never could stand The Moody Blues the pop 
> > band,
> > > > though they are far beyond most other pop bands.) I was obvious 
> > that
> > > > John and Justin prefer that newer stuff much more, and there was
> > > > more of it than their classics. It was also equally as obvious 
> > that
> > > > Graeme prefers their classics, and he really came alive for those,
> > > > particularly for Higher and Higher.
> > > >
> > > > On a side note, John kept giving me (specifically) funny looks
> > > > during NIWS. I guess he'd never seen anyone playing air-tron 
> > before.
> > > >
> > > > On that note, I was very disappointed with their keyboardist
> > > > (they've two of them) charged with playing the 'tron samples. He 
> > got
> > > > all the right notes in the right time, but that was it. He played
> > > > with an uncharacteristically bright sound, and apparently was
> > > > unaware of the swell pedal at his feet. He played it as if it were
> > > > another keyboard. I missed Pinder's presence. He weaved a tapestry
> > > > of sound. This guy plays notes, very well may I add. Heck, on Peak
> > > > Hour he substituted stock Yamaha synth church organ sound for both
> > > > the Italian Accordion and Church Organ break in the middle. Why??
> > > > All this was bugging the shit out of my dad too. The remaining 
> > three
> > > > original members need to get on this dude. They've got video
> > > > footage. Mike is their friend. This guy needs to learn what Mike 
> > was
> > > > trying to do with those sounds. There really is no excuse for this
> > > > kind of laziness/apathy. Study up man.
> > > >
> > > > Also, they were using a Memotron. After the show I asked a roadie
> > > > why not the Pindertron samples (for chrissake those trons WERE on
> > > > tour with THIS very band) , and the roadie acted as if I did not
> > > > understand the Memotron is a Mellotron sampler. Hragh.
> > > >
> > > > Their other three backing musicians were stellar. The flute lady 
> > had
> > > > superior control of her instrument. (One professional flutist to
> > > > another, she was very good.) The other keyboard player did not
> > > > bother me in the slightest, though it was hard to see her from 
> > where
> > > > I was sitting. Gordon Marshall was obviously enjoying drumming 
> > along
> > > > with Graeme. They kept playing hot-potato with their drumsticks,
> > > > laughing, and generally rocking out totally.
> > > >
> > > > Again, a very enjoyable show. Would have been even better if their
> > > > so called Mellotronist knew what the fuck he was doing. That was 
> > my
> > > > only gripe. Any other band could get away with it, but not the
> > > > Moodies. That IS their sound.
> > > >
> > > > -Sean
> > > >
> > > >
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