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You have some juicy tidbits for the group, Martin?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:
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> When you distill the Moodies down, you have an astonishingly good
> songwriter in Hayward, a good songwriter in Pinder and a sound the two of them
> masterminded. The rest are not so talented but the sum of parts produced
> albums that I loved. The myth is greater than the truth. They got away with it
> live but the limitations revealed how produced the albums were. We spoke
> with Tony Clarke and he told us some revelations that would flatten the
> die-hard fan. And Lodge is a hideous songwriter most of the time.
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> In a message dated 01/06/2011 06:58:58 GMT Daylight Time,
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> I think the problem was between Graham and Mike back when Mike left in 78,
> but the others were not happy with Pinder remaining in LA. anyway.
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> At this point it makes almost no difference though. The Mellotron is long
> gone, Mike is not writing or performing with them, and Ray is now gone and
> his replacement is a young girl flute player - nowhere near the talent,
> presence or feel that Ray had contributed.
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> It's nice for them to carry on the way they do, but it isn't the same.
> It's more like a cabaret version of them. I'll stick to the original records
> when I want to hear them.
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> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM, john barrick <_barrickjohn262@..._
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> Sorry - if whatever the deal is between Mike and Justin was going to get
> patched up, it would have happened by now, and that's why I'll never see the
> Moodies.
> john
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> PS - I find the idea of Mr. Edge dancing at all to be very disconcerting.
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> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Ms. Janet Strauss
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> Mike Pinder.
> Yeah………………IF only.
> I might actually get out and see them again in that case.
> Would like to see him just play the oldies, rather than watch Graeme dance
> to Higher and Higher.
> Ughhhhh.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of David Jacques
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:59 AM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: MOODY BLUES voices EEEEEK
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> They sound great for their age... Still miss Mike...
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> Thanks. That was very good.
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> -Bruce D.
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> --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Ms. Janet Strauss <_jandjstrz@..._
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> From: Ms. Janet Strauss <_jandjstrz@..._
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> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: MOODY BLUES voices EEEEEK
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 8:05 PM
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> They sounded pretty good here…acoustic guitar in hand.
> Almost unplugged.
> Background vocals tad subdued…but ok.
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> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98vekNwqpIg&feature=related_
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> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of Charles
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:20 AM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: MOODY BLUES voices EEEEEK
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> It wouldn't be that difficult to get Justin, John, Ray, and Mike to record
> the notes (as far as their range could go), auto-tune them, and layer them
> into some awesome Moodies samples. They wouldn't even have to be in the
> same room...Mike could do his at home.
> Okay Martin, how about it? :)
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> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , "tron400" <tron400@>
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> > Since they've been using professional backup singers for years now,
> their live vocals are just fine.
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> > Bernie
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> > --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Bruce Daily
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> > > Ā Yeah, they wereĀ vocally out of tune in concert.Ā Their studio
> brilliance sure didn't come through on stage (for theĀ most part).Ā It was
> too bad Justin Hayward didn't use an acoustic guitar live once in a while.Ā
> Mic systems weren't great for acoustic instrumentsĀ back then.Ā They
> sure could've used some vocal coaching.Ā I saw them in 1981 (with Moraz),
> and the vocals were just as bad, and JH was still all electric.Ā I bet
> they had some good nights, though.
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> > > Ā Ā I wonder if they use Autotune live now.Ā I hate the current
> constant misuse of Autotune as a vocal effect, but, hadĀ it been available then
> Ā it could've helped the old Moodies.
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> > > Ā -Bruce D.
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> > > --- On Sun, 5/29/11, Ms. Janet Strauss <jandjstrz@> wrote:
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> > > From: Ms. Janet Strauss <jandjstrz@>
> > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] MOODY BLUES voices EEEEEK
> > > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 5:44 PM
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> > > ā€¦heh heh.
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> > > You mean, Ā like at the 1:05 mark in this vidā€¦ā€¦..?Ā LOL
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> > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY9msQztHSI_
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> > > Ray sure gets into it ā€¦.physicallyā€¦ā€¦and the ā€ Tron sounds ok
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> > > Jim
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
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> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of john barrick
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:35 PM
> > > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] MOODY BLUES voices
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> > > It must have been considered. Ā Just listen to any of their live
> performances and not cringe when Lodge cuts loose with those descant falsettos
> that overpower Hayward's leads.Ā
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> > > john
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> > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
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> > > Ā Maybe Mike Pinder resisted the idea of using aĀ 'Tron or Chamby
> choir when it became available.Ā The Moodies were known for their vocal
> harmonies.Ā Would the group have resented the use ofĀ pre-recorded vocals
> over their own?Ā I wonder if the idea was ever brought up.Ā If so,Ā maybe
> they considered recording their own vocals for the 'Tron.
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> > > Ā It's ask an ex-Moodie time, I guess.
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> > > Ā Pondering-
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> > > Ā Ā -Bruce D.
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> > > --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
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> > > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] MOODY BLUES voices
> > > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > > Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:12 PM
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> > > I don't think the idea was given serious consideration because both
> the Mellotron and Chamberlin were thought of as ' home organ' type units
> doing big band music largely. The Chamberlin 'Voices' are only a single Female
> and single Male - not quite a choir until the two sounds are put togetherĀ
> which is what happened on the M1 model.
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> > > The idea was first advertised in the late 60's on Chamberlin brochures
> but only as 'voices' and not as a choir. The Mellotron really nailed the
> choir sound.
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> > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
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> > > I was always surprised Mike Pinder never used any choirs with the
> Moodies, or had the band members do Mellotron tapes. Imagine Justin, John, Ray,
> and Mike making vocal tapes for that massed "OM" effect or the backing
> ahhhs on Melancholy Man....a missed opportunity.
> > > If Harry did the solo voices in the 50s and Mellotron used Music
> Masters as a guide, why didn't Mellotron add human voices to their units until
> the M400?
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