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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
From: mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>
Date: 2011-02-26
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright How you think ?
Den 2011-02-26 12.59, skrev "John Hammaren" <hammaren@geoconcepts.com>:
I do violate every rule of the programmer, both coding wise (screw elegant code – how about we make the thing work), and writing (I dated an English instructor in college and I was beaten into submission!). I will attempt to throw a misspelling in here and there, and who knows – maybe even some bad grammar. J Just give me a chance.
John
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 12:54 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
John,
Your posts here need not be brief, but they should be filled with misspellings and poor syntax. Then you'll fit right in. . As for spam, I get none from this group. It may be because Clay loves Spam and keeps it all for himself.
In a message dated 2/25/2011 8:47:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hammaren@geoconcepts.com writes:
Thanks Frank,
Yes, it is my first post. I hope to get pics up from your spectacular restoration (resurrection is a more apt term, I think) of Mr. Neel as soon as I can.
Thanks again, and I know this is the right group, since the spam is greatly outnumbered by the relevant posts. I hope to not be so verbose in the future. This is a common thing over at the Dotcom group, so it kind of rubs off.
Greeting to all.
John
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 6:22 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
Welcome to the group John! Is this your first post here?
John is the owner of the "Johnny Neel" Mellotron, #525
Frank
In a message dated 2/25/2011 4:30:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hammaren@geoconcepts.com writes:
Well, as a programmer, that’s not entirely true. Whatever agreement was signed whether that person was an employee or outside consultant would dictate what remuneration was received. If the agreement stipulated that the employee or consultant received a royalty in whatever fashion was agreed, then that would be it. But, on the other hand the agreement would be between those two entities, not the end-user or consumer. In that case, whatever agreement or license agreement that was agreed to upon sale of such product would be in force between end user and manufacturer of product. I have not looked at whatever legalese came with my Triton for example, but since I have not read about any brouhahas regarding this, it is probably safe to assume that end users are granted a general use license for whatever purpose including performance. That’s not to say the programmer may not get a cut of total unit sales. What probably would not be included would be redistribution of said programs for the purpose of the end-user profiting from that work. Pretty much the same as if you cloned a Triton and sold it as a TritonGrande’ with all the sounds intact. But there is nothing to say he couldn’t profit from performances of his work if the end-user agreement stipulated it. Kind of hard to enforce this, but the way things are getting in this world, don’t count this out some day. Particularly since we are at the point where every, and I mean every device and person will have an IPV6 address in 20 or 30 years and whatever it is we will do will have some form of tracking associated with it. Look at Microsoft. Software as a service is a prime example – compose a doc and pay them a royalty. That’s their future.
It ain;t mine.
Cheers,
John
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:44 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
He probably signed a "work for hire" agreement, and besides, it is not a performance, but instead,programming. In the US, there is no performance royalty on programming, that would make no sense.
fd
-----Original Message-----
From: mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
How about the guy who programmed the synthbrass sound on the DX7 ?
Should he get paid or sued everytime the sound is heard on the radio ?
// Mattias
Den 2011-02-25 17.56, skrev "Mike Dickson" <mike.dickson@gmail.com>:
On 25/02/2011 13:01, feline1973 wrote:
Nobody knows the name of the people on the tapes and so PPL don't have this info so they ain't getting paid at present.
Well..we know some of them. Trouble is I suspect most of them are dead.