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On 1/21/2011 3:44 PM, djacques@csulb.edu wrote:Love the reference to Marvin from Hitchhiker's Guide. You guys crack me up.
I am in London in march. Can I come and meet you guys and maybe do some business?
DavidSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:27:39 +0000ReplyTo: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011ee
It'us funny how a few comments gets everyone so fired up. We really don't have an issue with any digital emulation of the mellotron and our iPad app will soon be revolutionised at such a low price that if thats what you want, save your pennies and have fun for the cost of a beer! Not quite the real thing but bloody good for the price.
The name ownership issue is for others and NOT for us. We have never suffered from not owning the Mellotron name. We have an equally, almost more important name and the one musicians remember.
We are not bitter people and what prompts my personal annoyance is the negative selling techniques of Mr Swede. I have ample evidence of a paranoid android maligning everyone in his path to gain sales. Our quotes NEVER EVER malign anyone. I am tempted to reveal all but won't. So when you think we are paranoid about the M unit, it's just frustration at the pathetic put downs and negativity.
We build mellotrons and will continue to do so. Markus has abdicated.
Best,
There is no doubt that a digital machine is much easier and cheaper to build. That is and the low volume of sales is reflected in the tape machines high price.
I think you know as well as Streetly or Marcus what it takes to build one of those mechanical beasts. I also think you are right that even though it may sell well
at first it will likely dwindle off due to its limited use as “a one trick pony” sampler. Although there are some analogue and electromechanical (Mellotron, Hammond)
I don’t know that many digital keyboards will achieve that “Hall of Fame” status. To me they seem to be not an unique in character but who knows….I didn’t appreciate
the longevity all of the “classic” analogs I have owned over the years. J
Cheers!
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011
Making the M4000D is less costly in every regard than a real tron. Chips are cheap. The profit margins have to be far better with the digital machine and you can assemble a couple in a few hours. Take it from me. I've built a number of Mellotrons from the frame up, but I don't build cabinets (yet) and I don't have to machine the parts. I think the labor cost on the digital machine is very low. In short, he can crank them out. But if he builds 200 of them, that's going to be more than Streetly is ever going to make (in my opinion).
I think Markus will sell a bunch of them. But eventually the buzz will die down, and once all the sounds are out there, there won't be anything to sell to the customer base. He'll bury the Memotron, but Streetly will sell all of the hand crafted, lovingly assembled M4000s they care to make. There just won't be as many of them as there are digital machines.
I imagine many tron owners will also have the digital machine, but by keeping his price low, he could bury the Memotron.
Here is a graph of the Dollar against the Krona. There is no justification for a 30% increase in the price of Markus' digital machine. Perhaps the price increase may prove to be a mistake in the long run.
In a message dated 1/21/2011 4:17:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
Drinks are all I can afford to bet in this economy…if you throw in the dinner and airfare….with a night’s hotel stay to recover
that’s a few grand at least….but win or lose it would be fun….oh that’s right Frank I forgot you quit drinking….I just saved
at least $50+….it would have been more but I haven’t quit (yet…in 2 years who knows :) I’ll leave you with your own words:
“The buzz I am hearing is, "... here is a Mellotron that I can afford ." I believe that Markus will sell a bunch of these machines,
no matter what he named it. In 6 months he'll probably sell more of them than all the real Mellotrons Streetly could ever make.”
Frank (#1)
January 20, 2011
Best to you! J
Gary
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:49 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011
I will happily take that bet.
Frank
In a message dated 1/21/2011 1:20:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
I would
be willing to bet Marcus makes more money selling those in the next couple of years than all of the Mellotron and Streetly tape machines
sold in the last ten.