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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Second thoughts

From: Jason Locke <jasonlocke@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 2008-01-06

So, a few weeks ago, I mentioned that I had gone to our wonderful library for the Classic 7 MB albums, to see what I thought of them, since I missed out the first time around.  I've listened to all but Children's Children...I don't feel like I've missed anything, to be honest.  However, I am also learning from all of you that it's not about how "good" or "bad" something is -- it's more about preference.  I find their music a little lightweight, can't get past the poetry, and not aggressive enough for my tastes.  There aren't dramatic changes in dynamics (the first record, sure), nothing but the hits that stood out.  NiWS is still haunting and wonderful (definite chills up the spine, even after all this time), Story in Your Eyes has nice chord changes.  On the flip side, Melancholy Man is probably the worst thing I've ever heard...let me say that differently...it would be at the bottom of my list of preferences.  :)  The instrumentation doesn't seem to weave in and out like a Yes or a King Crimson piece would.  Maybe that isn't the goal, though, so again, it's a preference.  Nothing hits me in the gut, though.  What am I not getting, because I want to understand!  What aspects of their music do the fans here appreciate and enjoy?
 
Jason 

thinkingalouduk <owen@thinking-aloud.co.uk> wrote:
--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@ ...> wrote:
> I think Mike Pinder's mellotron and chamberlin playing
> is beautiful, particularly the chamberlin playing on
> "New Horizons" at first hearing I thought they were
> real strings. I also like the mellotron on "The Candle
> of Life". However I don't like the songs that much,
> too sweet for my taste and for some reason I have
> never enoyed Justin Hayward's singing.

As an unashamed Moodies fan, I'm glad you enjoyed the Pindertron sounds! Ironically,
getting a recent Moodies compilation like "Gold" does rather bias the playlist towards
Hayward (10 of the 17 on the "Classic 7" disk by him, unlike the usual mix on an album -
and one of the two Pinder tracks included doesn't have Tron on it (in fact, I think Lost in a
Lost World is all Chamberlin)) , which while they are the "hits" don't really give a true
impression of an early album. If you do get chance to listen to Children's Children's
Children, take it - mostly because you get to hear Pinder's "Out and In"! (Not to mention
pitch-bend Tron vibes on "Floating", apparently.)

From what I've read of Pinder's recording techniques (mostly from Frank's book) he usually
double-tracked the Tron pieces, occasionally with more parts as required. "Out an In" as
recorded uses at least two, if not three, some of which seem to be double-tracked (I've
tried to reproduce it myself and ended up using five or more tracks!) - live he usually
played a variation on the recording - sometimes more spartan, sometimes doing a very
good job. If you've heard "The Voyage" from "On The Threshold Of A Dream", have a listen
to the live version from "Caught Live + 5", which to my ears is quite impressive, given the
lack of layering.

Good luck with your new beast!

Owen