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Subject: Re: JP-6 / MKS-80 Comparison

From: "modorange333" <modorange333@...>
Date: 2004-02-24

Yeah, I'll go along with that. The Oberheim 2-pole sound is
certainly hard to acheive with a 4-pole LP filter.

In Roland_Jupiters@yahoogroups.com, "asemcken"
<asemcken@y...> wrote:
> Since I first posted, I've done a bit more fiddling to determine
that
> my JP-6 has nearly seven octaves of VCO mod range on both
the ENV-1
> and LFO sliders, prior to the "WIDE" setting on the bender
board. Is
> there anything else that can go that wide? Without a frequency
> counter, I can't determine just how far the combination of max
VCO
> mod and max bend goes. Suffice to say that I can't hear it
anymore,
> even with VCO1 set at 32C. I can't seem to get nearly that
amount out
> of the MKS-80. I agree that the MM VCF is probably one of the
coolest
> things going, but I still miss the 2-pole lowpass sparkle my
OB-8
> had. Some of the VA's can do a decent job emulating it, but the
JP-8
> owners really have a cool thing in the 2-pole switch.
>
> --- In Roland_Jupiters@yahoogroups.com, "modorange333"
> <modorange333@y...> wrote:
> > Without an MKS-80 to compare it to, my JP-6 would have to
be
> > every bit as versatile as I would want it to be, because of one
> > thing it has that the MKS nor the JP-8 have. The multimode
filter.
> > The band- highpass filters available allows for many more
> > interesting sounds, I think.--- In
> > Roland_Jupiters@yahoogroups.com, "asemcken"
> > <asemcken@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi :
> > >
> > > Not trying to start a flame thread here, just an observation.
> I've
> > > been slowly programming a bunch of my JP-6 sounds into
my
> > rev. 5 MKS-
> > > 80 and a few things have come up :
> > >
> > > 1) I can't seem to get anywhere near the same range out of
the
> > VCO
> > > mod section on the MKS as the JP-6 gets. It seems to be
> > almost a full
> > > octave less.
> > > 2) The XMOD seems to be acting the same way. On my
JP-6, I
> > can XMOD
> > > VCO 1 to match pitch with VCO 2 even when tuned a full
octave
> > lower.
> > > The MKS only works as far as a fifth lower.
> > > 3) I have not yet been successful in getting
similar-sounding
> > > envelopes on both machines. The JP's seem "smoother",
> > especially in
> > > the transition between Attack and Decay.
> > > 4) The "wide" bend setting on the MKS is also nowhere
near
> > as wide as
> > > that of the JP-6.
> > >
> > > I've just recently calibrated the JP-6, and the MKS had the
> > same
> > > treatment less than 6 months ago.
> > >
> > > Anyone else notice things like this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Adam