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Subject: Re: Impedance and volume

From: "shaktisshadow" <shaktisshadow@...>
Date: 2003-08-14

Thank you both for your comments. I will try the An1x out with
monitors tonight. It probably is the headphones. I'll let you know.
Shakti


- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Metlay" <metlay@a...> wrote:
>
> Bruce Wahler said:
> > Hi Shakti,
> >
> >>Thanks for the reply Jimmy!
> >>
> >>> Are all the patches quiet or just some?
> >>
> >>All patches are low in volume.
> >>
> >>What are you using for an amp?
> >>
> >>I have been using headphones ( a couple different types)
> >
> > It could be a combination of the AN1x and the headphones you are
using. I use
> > a pair of Sennheiser HD580's, and while the volume is adequate,
it's not
> > overly loud. I was prepared for this: All of the reviews said
that the
> > Sennheisers really need a strong amp to drive them, because of
their high
> > impedance.
> >
> > Years ago, most headphones were 8 ohms, and all headphone outputs
on stereos,
> > etc. were set up to handle this load. These days, headphone
impedances are
> > all over the place, from around 30 ohm to tens of thousands of
ohms.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -BW
>
> Sorry but no, you have it backwards, Bruce. Years ago, most
speakers were 8
> ohms, and headphones were designed to be driven by the same amp
circuit that
> fed the speakers without anything getting overloaded (the speakers,
the
> headphones, or most importantly the amp itself, usually tube-driven
in those
> days). To do this they had to have a very high impedance, 600 to
2000 ohms, so
> they could be strapped across the amplifier with the speakers
without
> affecting the amp load much.
>
> When portable cassette players came out and required lower-impedance
> headphones to get decent level from their tiny battery-powered amps
(and
> didn't hook up to speakers anyway), that's when impedances started
to drop.
>
> Many good headphones today still use a 600 ohm impedance, but
others are
> specifically being designed with lower impedances. As an example,
AKG still
> makes the excellent K240 M headphone, a 600 ohm phone that's often
used for
> orchestral sessions where many headphones can be chained in
parallel without
> the net impedance dropping too low (you can chain 75 sets and still
have an
> 8-ohm load). But AKG also recently released the K240 Studio, a
redesigned
> headphone with a 55 ohm impedance.
>
> mike
>
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