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AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vick_timson"
<vick_timson@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a subtractive synth VSTi that pretty much has the same
> parameters as the AN1x? I looked at the pro52 control map file
and
> it seems that it's missing some parameters I consider
essential to
> the AN1x like Pmod depth and PWsrc.
Sorry, but I'm a little confused by your statement "looked at the
pro52 control map file and ..." Do you mean the MIDI Controller
Templates supplied by Native Instruments? IF you haven't
already, I strongly recommend you donwload a demo copy of
Pro-52 (now Pro-53) from the NI web site. The Pmod equivalent
on the Pro-52 is the FREQ A parm and the PWsrc equivalent is
the PW A (and PW B.) The parms can be modulated from both
the Poly-Mod and Wheel-Mod sections of the Pro-52.
IMHO, the Pro-52 (and Pro-53) both offer remarkably similar
sound quality to the AN1x. It's not lacking much of anything from
the AN1x. I'd easily choose the Pro-5x series as an AN1x
substitute. There's a shareware knock off called Exciton (I think)
that appears to be a 'poor mans' version (for $75 if you call that
shareware!) but I found it neither aesthetically pleasing nor
comparable sound wise to either the Pro-52 or AN1x. Besides, it
behaved like crap in a couple of VST hosts on the Mac platform.
And if you could recommend one,
> how would I go about transferring the parameters on the AN1x
to the
> VSTi like I can with AN1xedit?
I think you'll find a number of presets in Pro-52 are remarkably
similar to the AN1x - and others can be tweaked with a minimum
of effort. I know of no conversion utility for AN1x Voices so I would
hazazrd a guess any effort to transfer patches would be a
manual effort on your part.
I'm also wondering if something like
> this can be achieved with the environment files for Logic. If so,
> how would I go about doing it?
I don't see how the Environment would lend itself to this. The
Environment is a tremendous resource for providing tailored
automation and control facitilies but any conversion of
parameters would be best suited to real time applications, i.e.,
rerout MIDI CC #00x to CC #0xx for example.
There are many Environment layers available today for the
AN1x/PLG150-AN. Check the Files section here at Yahoo!
Groups and also
http://www.swiftkick.com/ Jetronic made the
superb layers for the AN1x Step Seq and Vari Effects, another
fellow made a PLG150-AN specific layer entirely of SysEx strings
and I fleshed out the missing parameters from the env supplied
by Yamaha for Mode1 and Mode2 on the AN1x.
I know I might be asking for too
> much, but I'd appreciate whatever aid I can get in case my
AN1x isn't
> around and I need to use a surrogate midi controller for
gigging with
> those same sounds.
No problem, but I think you might want to spend some time
thinking through what attainable goal you're after.
> I know that I'm not going to get exactly the same sounds since
even
> among the subtractive synths, they all have different engines
and
> different parameters, as is apparent with the pro52 vs. the
An1x. I
> hope that there's just enough overlap and I'm pretty sure there
is
> between the AN1x and a VSTi so I can "emulate" the AN1x
when I'm on
> the go(an1x = too heavy to carry to gigs nowadays esp since I
usu
> walk w/my laptop). Thanks.
The one shortcoming of the Pro-52 vs. the AN1x is the lack of a
Control Matrix. The Mod section on the Pro-52 is terrific (but a
little confusing.) The lack of a Control Matrix is understandable
as this feature is really more a knock off of the Oberheim design
then the Sequential Circuits design. Still...if you ∗really∗ need a
Control Matrix you might check out the FreeAlpha from LinPlug.
Which, again, sounds neither as good as the Pro-52 or AN1x to
my ears but offers an easy to use Control Matrix.
I'd also like to point out that NI assumed distribution of the
Pro-53 from Steinberg upon its release earlier this year.
Consequently, many online shops were offering Pro-52 at a
discounted price and the upgrade to Pro-53 was offered directly
from NI for free. I took advantage of this blowout and scored a
Pro-52 for $70 from AudioMIDI.com and the Pro-53 (with 500+
extra patches) was FREE! Way cool. That was a few months ago
so it may be hard to find anybody still offering this price but you
might search around - try Sam Ash, Nova Musik, and maybe 8th
Street Music too. I don't see any reason not to jump on it if you
come across this deal.
Hope this helps,
Jon