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Subject: Re: [AN1x] volume

From: "James R. Acker" <jacker@...>
Date: 2002-10-18

I'm pretty sure you now this, but creating patches that will solo works
fine, but when you are playing along with other instruments....it is really
hard to tell what will come through and what won't. Also depends on which
other instruments and what their volume and tone settings are.

I use my AN1X in my home studio. I almost always have to tweak the EQ or
just plain drop some patches that I really like as solo.

Maybe it would be a good thing if you have a home studio, to record the guys
you play with and note relative volumes and when you make a patch try it in
the mix and see if it can be heard or gets drowned out. Barring that, you
could try using a stero or a radio but then you ought to get a Y adapter and
"mix" (or a small radio shack mixer) it in the headphones.

I once sat and tweaked a lead guitar to get it to be just exactly how I
wanted it. Weeks later I was listening to it and almost by accident "soloed"
the one track with the guitar...and I was amazed. It sounded terrible!
Scratchy and no bottom....I was almost sure I picked a virtual track that
was never used, but I turned off the solo for the track and heard it again
in the mix and...yep...it was the right guitar...sounded full and biting.. I
played around gradually turning down the other instruments and hearing the
guitar get that terrible sound and then turning the rest up again and hear
it sound great.
It was like a magic trick.

So, we that make patches have the same problem guitarists do buying new
multi-effects pedals. You sit there in the music store alone, wailing and
getting some realy sweet sounds. You love it...play it in a mix and half of
the patches are just no good...they lose all their subtlety and get buried.
But continued tweaking almost always can get them mostly back. Notching the
other instruments in the freq range that the patch sits in mainly helps.

On a similar note, I noticed a lot of folks that have some really nice
patches....so they are obviously savvy synth programmers, still screw up the
EQ by giving (sometimes as much as) 9-12 db boost to some frequencies. I
think this usually is a mistake. You usually want to cut, and usually not
vary more than a few db, instead raising the volume. This is just
my...pretty uninformed opinion, but whenever I am boosting more than a few
db in anything (mixing, patching, guitar pedal settings) alarms go off...I
think I must be dong something wrong. It is fine to use EQ as an
effect...but you are adding a lot of gain and that often means degrading the
sound quality.

Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "spaceanimals" <alciere@...>
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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: [AN1x] volume


> I spent this morning trying to normalize the volume of 47 AN1X
> patches. It only took 2.5 hours. It was fun in an odd slide ruler
> kind of way. I even fidled with the controllers so the filter sweeps
> and effects returns wouldn't spike the volume. It will be interesting
> to try out these sounds with the band to see if I got the levels
> right.
>
> Rainbow Jimmy
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