--- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "idealordid" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> > Hi, this is Jeff Harrington the guy who did most of the
> translation.
> > As a member of the AN1X list, I acted in good faith in my
> > legitimately given right (your permission to AN1X list members)
> to
> > use the AN1X patch library.
> >
> > I regret that you're pissed off by my actions. I had no idea
this
> > would happen - as I'm sure nobody at EX5Tech did and ask for
> your
> > permission and apologize after the fact.
> >
> > We appreciate your hard work and have enjoyed immenselely
> the
> > entirety of the patch library. From one Yamaha user to another
> I can
> > only say, "Bravo!".
> >
> > Jeff Harrington
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Now that I've had an opportunity to throw my little tantrum and
> subsequently chill out maybe we can put this into perspective.
>
> First of all, as a subscribing member of AN1x-list you certainly
> are entitled to make use of the contributed AN1x User Voices.
>
> Second, I should have taken a moment longer to realize
> translating the user Voices from .an1 format to a format suitable
> for the EX∗ series is analogous to the proprietary sample format
> translation efforts of after market vendors. To pretend otherwise
> would be hypocritical - particularly since I'm actively involved as
a
> beta tester in such developments.
Hi, I've done a few of these types of translations and I've always
been at a loss as to how to approach the patch author. I moved the
whole UCSD DX7 patch library to the SY77 back in 1993 and never
uploaded the library out of fear of stepping on somebody's toes.
(10,000 patches). Some of the patches had readme's and the email
would bounce. So I did nothing but use it myself - which was a loss
to the SY77/99 community.
I wrote a DX7->Csound patch translator a few years later and ported
the whole thing to the virtual Csound system and this time I only
provided the tool, (kind of like Da'Cook did in developing the
translation device, exFactory 3.0). Even then I was erroneously
attacked by some students of the initial sound author over
attribution; that was quickly straightened out. (I'd already
received permission from the Dr. Pinkston - the initial Csound DX7
emulator author - and cooperation from Yamaha engineering).
I guess I went a little overboard when I realized the breadth of the
AN1X patch library and heard those sounds on my own synth and spent a
lunch hour converting 99 banks to the EX5 format. It was just a
thrilling experience and I got really quite obsessed about it. It
was stupid of me not to request permission as I'm a member of a few
of these groups and the sense of community and comradery in those
groups is paramount to the success as a resource.
We at the EX5 tech board are a little jealous of you AN1X members
(since our AN1X emulator is monophonic) and I am still not sure just
how accurately the patches translated never actually having heard an
AN1X playing the real patch!
>
> Third, it would have been considerate to have been consulted by
> EX5Tech before hand but what's done is done - I'm glad there
> are apparently so many users who find our efforts worthwhile.
>
> So that my ranting and raving is better understood, I've actively
> encouraged and participated in Voice contributions in this
> community with two ambitions: 1) That somebody smarter than
> me will step up and let me know how I might improve my own
> programming and 2) that my efforts may help somebody new to
> synthesis say "I didn't know you could that!" I wrongly interpreted
> the EX5Tech effort as siphoning off our work without some
> contribution in return. Having reviewed your own web site and
> EX5Tech I see that you do indeed give back to the community.
>
:)
FWIW, I wrote one of these first MIDI patch editors in 1986 on the
Amiga 1000 for the Roland MT32 module. It was a thrill seeing a
patch library develop over the Amiga BBS system resulting from my
giving away of the editor.
> I'm willing to write this off as a misunderstanding and hope we
> all can take a lesson away from this.
>
All I can say is thanks to you John and to the whole crew here and
pardon me while I go back into lurk mode. Glad to see this settled
in a musically harmonious fashion.
Jeff
http://jeffharrington.org