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From: "Bruce Wahler" <bruce@...>

> Are you using Win2K? If so, I am also having problems with AN1xEdit and a "legacy" (gameport) adapter. I believe that I had it working at one time, but somewhere in the process of installing applications and MS security patches, it stopped functioning. Win98SE is much better for MIDI.
>

Bruce, thanks for some really helpful hints. I am using Win95 actually, but I see what you mean about the "Legacy" stuff...I saw that in the devices and wasn't sure what it was. Now I know that is part of the problem at least.

AS I said in another answer to Terry, the thing that puzzles me most is this "ILLEGAL DATA" message that comes all the time, it starts coming in to the AN1x just as soon as I have power on the PC.

Maybe you could help me, any of you, if you guys that have the AN1x hooked up to a PC have the AN1x already powered up, and turn on the PC after, does it flicker on the LCD screen up until Windows is loaded? Or does it flicker a short time and then stop?

And I tried even turning OFF the device ID on the An1x side expecting it to help but it didn't.

> If that's not the case, it sounds like you might have both Local On set in the AN1x and MIDI Thru Enable set in AN1xEdit.

I don't see how this could affect at start up, but maybe it could (just cause I don't see how it could doesn't mean much :-) I had Thru set to off (I mean if we are talking about the check box in the MIDI settings).

Suddenly last night when I try to start the an1x editor I get "Bad ID" in a pop up box. I wasn't getting that before, so I must have screwed something up. Am once again (fifth time's a charm eh?) installing the damn Soundblaster PCI stuff.

>This could cause multiple data messages, which would likely drive the AN1x crazy. MIDI Out from the PC always goes to MIDI In of the synth, and vice versa. It won't damage anything if you hook things up backwards, but it won't give you MIDI, either.
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> If that doesn't fix you up, try uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers for the legacy adapter.
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> Also, just as an aside, you might want to power up the AN1x first, rather than last.
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That is what I do now normally. I have also tried it the other way to see if that helped....it didn't.

Thanks though, this is helpful and if you think of anything more please don't hesitate to email!

Jim
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> At 12:01 P 5/11/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hey all,
> >
> > Over a year ago I bought a gameport-MIDI adapter for my soundcard. I think I spent some time setting it up and finally was able to use it partially. I remember I was able to use An1x-Edit (a GREAT help of a program!) at least one way...I was able to change parameters on the PC and have them affect the AN1x. I was able to send patches to the AN1x from the PC also. I was NOT able to receive patches from the AN1x.
> >
> > Here it is over a year later. We got a new PC down in the living room, so I finally get the chance to take the old PC that I referred to above up to the music room and hook it up premanently to the AN1x (yeah!!).
> >
> > So I do.
> >
> > And immidiately upon starting the AN1x I see the display flicker like crazy...I have no contact.
> >
> > I try both ways hooking up the adapter..the way I think it should be and one other possible way (Call the first way "A" which was the MIDI cable marked OUT connected to the IN on the An1x and the MIDI cable marked IN connected to OUT from the An1x, and "B" which is the opposite.)
> >
> > With hookup "A", immidiately at power up, even with the An1x already on and as SOON as I hit the power button on the PC to turn it on, the LCD display on the An1x flickers like crazy and if I hit any button or move the selector knob I can faintly and briefly see the message "ILLEGAL DATA" flash. If I pull out the AN1x IN cable the flickering messages go away (the thing that flickers is the "edit" icon on the LCD) and it is just blank there.
> >
> > If I reverse the cables (please tell me it does no harm to hook MIDI up wrong :-) I think it should not hurt anything but am not certain) none of the above happens but I never get any contact.
> >
> > NEXT: I had in meantime bought a newer soundcard (Creative Labs Soundbolaster PCI card) and changed out the soundcard I had which was an older Soundblaster card. I installed the drivers and am experiencing exactly the same symptoms. The thing that bothers me most is I get the symptoms with hookup A absolutely the second there is power to the PC. This means to me that it probably isn't a setting anywhere UNLESS one of you tells me that they all behave this way and that you shouldn't turn the AN1x on until the PC is fully powered up?
> >
> > I eventually had gotten some MIDI tools off the net (the PC is no hooked up to the net anymore but from before) and one that monitors MIDI shows me with hookup A the PC receiving "SENSE" messages about one or two per second. I tried taking the cable out from the AN1x MIDI OUT, and moving it to THRU in hopes of passing whatever "ILLEGAL DATA" was coming into the AN1x.
> >
> > Please, has anyone got some insights, or been through this and have some answers? It is SO frustrating when something worked before and not now. It may be cables..I will switch the two at both ends and try method A again now. I doubt it will help.
> >
> >Any ideas, or at least insights or suggestions would really be appreciated!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jim
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