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Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] GG - thanks for the info.

From: "Paul Murphy" <merfman@...>
Date: 2001-10-15

Hmmm much food for thought. The Control Matrix yes is very powerful but it
a) isnt going to implement things that just arent on the PLG card itself and
b) seems like it won't operate globally - eg has to be programmed per
preset.

I guess the 4 standard controllers that I use most often are volume, pan,
filter cuttof and resonance.

Volume I rarely adjust during playback, pan, cutoff and resonance I will use
dynamically during playback to give lead sounds more life.

Since the PLG150AN is ok with cutoff and resonance by itself I will program
my Pulsar mixer to do volume and pan, and only feed it the left channel -
since left and right are the same its pointless feeding in both.

Thanks for pointing out table <1-3> it certainly gives a clearer picture of
the cards own capabilites than the midi imp chart.

The sound from the PLG is improved now coming out of my Pulsar's 24 bit DA
rather than mixed in with the SW1000XG's 18 bit mix output, so from that
point of view the KENTON is a very good investment. However, I dont think
the treatment of CC's 7 and 10 were thoroughly thought out and hopefully
rectified in a future OS upgrade.


----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gregson <gary@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:57 AM
Subject: RE: [AN1x-list] GG - PLG150AN stereo and SYSEX imp chart?


> Hi Paul,
>
> >>
> And if we conclude that the output from both left and right are always
> the
> same, then in effect, this is just 2 copies of the same mono signal isnt
> it
> ?<<
>
> Correct! I simply meant to state that all PLG cards provide a stereo
> output, signal. Whether there is any stereo field content within this
> signal depends on the actual card (The PLG150PF for example does have
> stereo sounds). However in the case of the PLG150AN, the signal is
> essential two identical mono channels.
>
> >>
> Could you have a look at the SYSEX implementation chart of the PLG150AN
> (page 70 in my multilingual manual) as it states that controllers 1,
> 5,7,10
> and 11 are implemented but with a footnote saying "receive if switch is
> on".
> What switch ?
> <<
>
> This is misleading. The table is actually referring to the receive
> switch on the host device (i.e XG devices have enable switches for most
> standard MIDI controllers e.g. vol, pan, etc. If you take a look at
> XGedit you will see these switches as a row of LEDs immediately below
> the PART module)
>
> The table that really tells you what is going on is: table <1-3> MIDI
> Parameter Change Multi Part (or at least that's what it's called in the
> English manual)
>
> In this table, you can clearly see which parameters are handled by the
> host and which are handled by the PLG (the host ones are marked with two
> stars ∗∗).
>
> >>
> then how come controller 1 (modulation) behaves differently as it seems
> to always respond whereas the others dont ?
> <<
>
> Again look at table <1-3> Modulation wheel control of Pitch, Filter, LFO
> PMOD, LFO AMOD, and LFO FMOD are managed directly by the PLG. Although
> (rather strangely) Mod wheel control of amplitude is handled by the
> host???
>
> >>
> Would I be correct in stating that only the modulation CC is actually
> implemented on the card itself and the others rely on the host ?
> <<
>
> Actually no...There are quite a lot of controllers handled directly by
> the PLG that have default implementations. If you take the parameters
> identified by table <1-3> and look up their corresponding
> Controller/RNP/NRPN, you will find that that these values work.
>
> To save you the effort.... we have the PLG responding to the following:
>
> Standard Controllers:
>
> Bank Select MSB Bn,00,xx
> Bank Select LSB Bn,20,xx
> Modulation Bn,01,xx
> Portamento Time Bn,05,xx
> Sustain Bn,40,xx
> Portamento Bn,41,xx
> Filter Resonance Bn,47,xx
> AmpEG Release Bn,48,xx
> AmpEG Attack Bn,49,xx
> Filter Cutoff Bn,4A,xx
> Portamento SW Bn,54,xx
>
> Plus of course the PLG has a programmable response to any controller 1 -
> 95 so long as you configure it via the individual voice Scene Matrix.
>
> Then we have a host of NRPN messages:
>
> Vibrato Rate Bn,63,01,Bn,62,08,Bn,06,xx
> Vibrato Depth Bn,63,01,Bn,62,09,Bn,06,xx
> Vibrato Delay Bn,63,01,Bn,62,0A,Bn,06,xx
> Filter EG Depth Bn,63,01,Bn,62,22,Bn,06,xx
> HPF Cutoff Bn,63,01,Bn,62,24,Bn,06,xx
> EQ Bass Gain Bn,63,01,Bn,62,30,Bn,06,xx
> EQ Treble Gain Bn,63,01,Bn,62,31,Bn,06,xx
> EQ Bass Frequency Bn,63,01,Bn,62,34,Bn,06,xx
> EQ Bass Gain Bn,63,01,Bn,62,35,Bn,06,xx
> AmpEG Decay Bn,63,01,Bn,62,64,Bn,06,xx
>
> And finally some RPN messages:
>
> Pitch Bend Sens Bn,65,00,Bn,64,00,Bn,06,xx
> Fine Tuning Bn,65,00,Bn,64,01,Bn,06,xx,26,xx
> Coarse Tuning Bn,65,00,Bn,64,02,Bn,06,xx
>
> Basically there really is no reason you should need to use sysex to edit
> the PLG150AN in real-time i.e. performance dynamic usage. With a little
> planning, careful setup of the voice matrix, and a device that can send
> controllers....you should be able to do everything you need!
>
> Regards
>
> Gary Gregson
>
> Email:gary@...
> http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Murphy [mailto:merfman@...]
> Sent: 14 October 2001 00:33
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] GG - PLG150AN stereo and SYSEX imp chart?
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