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Subject: RE: [AN1x-list] PLG150AN bulk dumps

From: Richard Whitehouse <rsw@...>
Date: 2001-04-22

Hi, Gary

>The lack of bulk dump appears to be a feature of all PLG cards. As I have
>said before, my guess is that Yamaha reasoned " since the cards have no user
>interface, all edits must be performed via external software.....hence you
>ought to already have all the parameters in that software". Whilst I don't
>entirely agree with this philosophy, I don't feel it is 'really important'
>to have this functionality.

Yes, I think I overstated the importance of this. I wouldn't call it a
feature, though.

>The CS6x like other XG host devices can apply offsets to the voice
>parameters stored in the patches of the card. These are termed 'quick edits'
>and are simply XG offset parameters applied by the host processing. You can
>normally access these parameters directly from the host front panel (and can
>bulk dump them)....but they are NOT true AN voice patch parameters. (I
>believe the XGworks AN editor caters for these parameters in its easy edit
>mode). You can also apply them using the standard PART parameters of my
>XGedit.

Yes, this is pretty much correct. The CS6x can save two kinds of PLG150AN
patch files - it can save the actual contents of the PLG150AN User Bank
036/002 as a "Board Voice" file (.s2b), and it can save the offset
paramters that you talk about above - it won't save these separately as a
file, but is saves them as part of an "ALL" file (.s2a), which is the
entire contents of memory. However, the "ALL" files don't contain the
Board Voice data.

>As for the PLG150AN presets supplied with AN1xEdit....(as already
>explained), I simply extracted these from Yamahas own XGworks editor. I
>don't really care whether they are 100% correct, its not something that I
>think is worth spending any great deal of time on. An1xEdit is designed for
>creating voices....and the supplied presets are good enough for that purpose
>(i.e. using the preset voices as a starting point). Bear in mind that if you
>use An1xEdit to edit the voice, you will be starting with what AN1xEdit
>dumps to the card....NOT what's in the ROM.

I didn't mean to be too critical or anything, and I agree with what you say
above. Sorry if you've been over this before, but it's new to me. Using
the XGWorks AN Expert editor, which seems to have patches that exactly
match what's in the PLG150AN ROM, I think I may be able to create some .ANP
files which exactly match the PLG150AN's Preset1, Preset2, and default User
banks. If I get that done, I'll make them available to you if you like.

Regards,
Richard