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Subject: Re: OT: EMU Samplers

From: jondl_2000@...
Date: 2001-04-13

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Grant Davies" <grant@b...> wrote:
> Actually they did a small upgrade for the ESI series.. I had a
ESI32 and
> they offered the turbo board which gave it two effects processors,
a bunch
> of new filters and more outputs.. not a bad board for $400... I do
love the
> way the EOS can be upgraded though..

That was the point I tried to make (obviously not well enough):
Upgradable OS' are a real boon to the user. But you get what you pay
for so no one should be surprised that a $599 ESI2000 doesn't see OS
upgrades like a $1599 E5K Ultra would ;-)

>
> Jon do have have or have you played the MS2000 ? I have to say its
one of
> the easiest to program boards I've ever had. Don't get me wrong
the An1x
> rocks, but the MS2000 is much simpler and although it can't do all
the An1x
> does, what it does do, it excels at..

It's been months since I've played one and I liked it very much. I
thought Korg nailed the user inteface - much better than Roland did
with the JP8000 (I compare them because they struck me as similar,
old school type interfaces.) How do you feel about the MS2K Filter
and Depth settings? I'd read some hoopla on the 'net but couldn't
discern how much of it was genuine vs. crapola?

I'm on record as being a fan of the Nord Lead 2. I _love_ that user
interface! In particular, layering and synchronizing Arppegiated
sounds. I wish the AN1x had an Arp/Seq per Scene - that would be
awesome. ∗AND∗ they should have replaced the parameter select knob
with a column of illuminated buttons - like the A3000 (∗AND∗ decent
display too!)

>
> I also want to know who went into my box of cables and go every
cable and
> tied it to every other cable.. I just finished wiring my new studio
and If I
> have to untangle another cable I'm going to force someone to play a
yamaha
> PSR....


Oooops ;-) I've been found out! Please, please not the PSR - not
agaiiiinnnn. Aaaaah!

regards,

Jon

>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Grant Davies
> b l u e t u b e p r o d u c t i o n s
> http://www.bluetube.com
> The new Bluetube Productions Sampler, coming June 2001
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jondl_2000@y... [mailto:jondl_2000@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:56 PM
> To: AN1x-list@y...
> Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: EMU Samplers
>
>
> That's a real good point regarding the upgradable EOS
> samplers!.The ESI series hasn't had an OS upgrade in years
> (and probably won't see another!) This was a contributing factor
> to why I chose my ASR-X Pro but, uh-oh, no more Ensoniq!
> Oooops. My next sampler is an EXS24 :-P
>
> Congrats on the MS2KR, Grant!
>
> regards,
> Jon
>
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Grant Davies" <grant@b...> wrote:
> > We have an Ultra E6400 and a regular E6400, one big bonus
> for us on the
> > Emu's is everytime EMU upgrade their samplers they offer an
> upgrade path to
> > owners of the older samplers if you are in the pro range (EOS
> samplers).
> > Our E6400 Ultra is 5 years old and was just a basic E6400
> when we originally
> > bought it. If we had gone the AKAI route we would have ended
> up buying a
> > new sampler every couple of years.
> >
> > BTW I just picked up an MS2000R and I love it, the sounds are
> really rich,
> > the filters are really nice too. I'd say the 12db filter is
not as
> good as
> > the An1x filter but the 24db filter sounds richer. Its
extremely
> easy to
> > program, and the step sequencer is really easy to use. I'm very
> happy with
> > the unit.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Grant Davies
> > b l u e t u b e p r o d u c t i o n s
> > http://www.bluetube.com
> > The new Bluetube Productions Sampler, coming June 2001
> >
> > I was choosing and making a decision about the sampler
> during last 3
> > months I
> > think <G>
> > and I came down to E-MU Ultra 6400 and I am going to get it
> here (in
> > Moscow -
> > not the cheapest
> > place to get music eq. too) for about 1650-1700 $ (new) in
> about a week
> > and know
> > what ? I think I get practically
> > the same stuff as Platinum for my needs.
> > Do you need more than 8 outs ? Do you need wordclock input
> ? Do you need
> > 32 Midi
> > INs ?
> > Do you need more than 64 poly in the sampler ? and so on
> and so on ..
> > Practically everything that is added in Platinum is not very
> useful for
> > me.
> > The only model I was / am taking into accound now is AKAI
> S3000XL , I
> > think ,
> > (though I find its limits really limiting)
> > because of too much people saying to me that the 'coloring' of
> the sound
> > on them
> > is much smaller than on the new
> > S5000/S6000 and Ultra E-MU's (the latest ones have a bit
> 'cheesy' sound as
> > many
> > pro users say). I am not taking
> > 5000/6000's into account because of many problems people
> are telling about
> > ,
> > because of the UI which I think is not
> > great for such a display and so on (and again , the sound).
> > Here were my ideas.
> > Good luck.
> > Ray.
> >
> >
> > Bjørn Standal wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again
> > >
> > > To round up this thread, I would like to thank all you guys
for
> > answering
> > > and enlightening me on this subject. All responses where
> informative and
> > I
> > > have sort of decided to:
> > >
> > > 1. Get Cakewalk with audio-recording (think 9.0). Make
> complete songs on
> > my
> > > 303/Trinity/DJX and then assign selected tracks (e.g. the
> bassline-track
> > > which originated from the 303) to the AN1X , one at the
time,
> to record
> > them
> > > into Cakewalk. The last track designated for the AN1X can
> be used as
> > regular
> > > midi track for real-time tweaking.
> > >
> > > 2. Get a sampler. I haven't decided for soft or hard, but
hard
> is more
> > > likely. Somebody I know got the Emu E4 Platinum which is
> one monster of
> > a
> > > sampler, 128MB, 20GB, lots of effects, 20 CD's with
> samples, SCSI, and
> > one
> > > quadrillion outputs. One problem is it's price tag. He got
it
> for about
> > > $6250 new. (Prices on gear here in Norway are really
> terrifying).
> > Another
> > > thing about this sampler is (something I heard somewhere)
> that you can't
> > do
> > > real-time filtering. You have to "re-trig" the sample to
make
> the new
> > > filter-setting active. Don't know if it's true, but if it
is, I
> would=
>
> > > consider that a tremendous limit.
> > > Also considering Akai Sxxx, Yamaha A5000 and other Emu's
> (6400, Ultra
> > > 6400)... But what I am looking for in a sampler is really
that I
> can use
> > it
> > > as a sound module like any other synth, and fully control
> effects and
> > > filters from within Cakewalk. Don't care about onboard
> sound-editing
> > tools
> > > as I do that kind of thing in Cool Edit or Recycle.
> > >
> > > Thanks again. Nice having you competent people around :-)
> > >
> > > And hey, don't talk down to the DJX.;-)
> > >
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