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Subject: Re: Timbrality issue once more

From: jondl_2000@...
Date: 2001-04-12

Bjorn,

Forgot to mention - E-mu has published their Reference Manuals as
PDFs and made them available free of charge from their web site:

http://www.emu.com/products/archives/archives.html

You can look up the manual for the ESI model your friend has offered
up and the other E∗ series models discussed in this thread.

IMO, Ray makes some good points and I concur with his reasoning in
regards to price vs. performance. Why else would E-mu market a half
dozen variations of the same thing?

Oh, and he's also correct regarding real time control of filter cutoff
values on E-mu samplers and the Resonance settings. Filter Cutoof can
be adjusted/modulated in real time. Resonance is set
at note-on. However, the depth amount can be adjusted via velocity,
i.e., at note-on the Rez value can be set depending on key
velocity.

Good luck,

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@y..., RayMaxer <digil@d...> wrote:
> Ops , I am sorry for my formatting.
> Ray.
>
> RayMaxer wrote:
>
> > Bjorn - that's not truth about EMU's (or sampler's) disability to
control the
> > filter in real-time.
> > AFAIK there a 'small' problem on EMU's (their ROMplers [Proteus
2K] too) that
> > RESONANCE can't be changed
> > while the note is on , but filter cutoff frequency can , of
course.
> > Also - as the sampler won't be your only instrument I'd never
consider buying
> > Platinum version.
> > I was choosing and making a decision about the sampler during
last 3 months I
> > think <G>
> > and I came down to E-MU Ultra 6400 and I am going to get it here
(in Moscow -
> > not the cheapest
> > place to get music eq. too) for about 1650-1700 $ (new) in about
a week and know
> > what ? I think I get practically
> > the same stuff as Platinum for my needs.
> > Do you need more than 8 outs ? Do you need wordclock input ? Do
you need 32 Midi
> > INs ?
> > Do you need more than 64 poly in the sampler ? and so on and so
on ..
> > Practically everything that is added in Platinum is not very
useful for me.
> > The only model I was / am taking into accound now is AKAI S3000XL
, I think ,
> > (though I find its limits really limiting)
> > because of too much people saying to me that the 'coloring' of
the sound on them
> > is much smaller than on the new
> > S5000/S6000 and Ultra E-MU's (the latest ones have a bit 'cheesy'
sound as many
> > pro users say). I am not taking
> > 5000/6000's into account because of many problems people are
telling about ,
> > because of the UI which I think is not
> > great for such a display and so on (and again , the sound).
> > Here were my ideas.
> > Good luck.
> > Ray.
> >
> > Bjørn Standal wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again
> > >
> > > To round up this thread, I would like to thank all you guys for
answering
> > > and enlightening me on this subject. All responses where
informative and I
> > > have sort of decided to:
> > >
> > > 1. Get Cakewalk with audio-recording (think 9.0). Make complete
songs on my
> > > 303/Trinity/DJX and then assign selected tracks (e.g. the
bassline-track
> > > which originated from the 303) to the AN1X , one at the time,
to record them
> > > into Cakewalk. The last track designated for the AN1X can be
used as regular
> > > midi track for real-time tweaking.
> > >
> > > 2. Get a sampler. I haven't decided for soft or hard, but hard
is more
> > > likely. Somebody I know got the Emu E4 Platinum which is one
monster of a
> > > sampler, 128MB, 20GB, lots of effects, 20 CD's with samples,
SCSI, and one
> > > quadrillion outputs. One problem is it's price tag. He got it
for about
> > > $6250 new. (Prices on gear here in Norway are really
terrifying). Another
> > > thing about this sampler is (something I heard somewhere) that
you can't do
> > > real-time filtering. You have to "re-trig" the sample to make
the new
> > > filter-setting active. Don't know if it's true, but if it is, I
would
> > > consider that a tremendous limit.
> > > Also considering Akai Sxxx, Yamaha A5000 and other Emu's (6400,
Ultra
> > > 6400)... But what I am looking for in a sampler is really that
I can use it
> > > as a sound module like any other synth, and fully control
effects and
> > > filters from within Cakewalk. Don't care about onboard sound-
editing tools
> > > as I do that kind of thing in Cool Edit or Recycle.
> > >
> > > Thanks again. Nice having you competent people around :-)
> > >
> > > And hey, don't talk down to the DJX.;-)
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