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Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sampler or computer

From: "Ralph" <beatz4@...>
Date: 2000-12-11

Hi Jake
I use an AKAI MPC2000XL which is a sampler, sequencer and drum machine all
rolled into one. I have it hooked up to my PC so I have the best off both
worlds. If I want to edit a sample I can do it in the Akai or take it to
the PC for big screen editing. I decided I wanted a hardware sampler but I
wanted something that would do minor sequencing for live work. The MPC
works wicked as any song I make in Cubase can be transfered reasonable easy
to it. Unfortunatly it is rather pricey compared to a new PC setup and Akai
are a bit tight with regards to the basic unit i.e. it has 2meg onboard and
only 1in 1out. Which is useless until you get more ram and the various
optional i/o cards which boosts the price quite considerably. Oh yeh did I
mention that you need storage for it aswell as there is no hd. So add to
that a scsi zip drive or similar and wait for it .....more cash which takes
this option to well over a grand. But as I first said it works very well
for me. My mate also has an mpc but mainly uses an Akai S2800 sampler which
is a hell of a lot cheaper and has some quality effects. It is only a
sampler mind but the S seris are industry standard and always have been
there's just something about the Akai sound!! You can pick up Akai samplers
second hand 2 a penny at around the 200 mark which I think is cheaper than
the software sampler Gigasampler, so its worth a look.
Hope this was of some use, also check last months postings there is quite a
lot of info on the A4000/5000 samplers.
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: Nivek Krap <nivek_krap@...>
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sampler or computer


> I tried Reaktor, DS-1, and Gigasampler. It seems like Giga has lowest
latency,
> but you have to get a sound card that is supported by Giga. Giga also
supports
> directsound (directx), which it means you can use any sound card that
supported
> by directx, but even good Directsound card could have latency up to
> 50ms in Giga. Right now, in my personal studio, I am using Gigasampler
with
> Sound Forge. Sound Forge with DirectX & VST give you unbelievable editing
power.
> My opinion, dumping through SCSI is too much work. By the time you make
the sample,
> and dump it through sampler, you might have forgotten your song idea.
> I got rid of my Akai.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jake B
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sampler or computer
>
>
> I plan on using it for both playing back phrases and as a drum module
and
> playing notes keyed off with my akai ax73. Yeah i was somewhat worried
> about the latency issue. But I am planning on getting a faily beefy
machine
> if I go that way.
>
> What are some decent samplers...sequencers...hardware wise
>
> thanks again
> Jake
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil" <accession@...>
> To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] OT: sampler or computer
>
>
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > Do you want to use the sampler to play back vocal phrases and drum
loops,
> or
> > as a synth playing individual notes?
> >
> > For the former, a computer may prove easier to work with as it's
visual
> > although the filters in hardware samplers may prove better sounding.
> Editing
> > samples on a 17" computer monitor beats a miniture LCD any day!
> >
> > If it's the latter, then a hardware sampler may prove to be more
reliable.
> >
> > For live use: Well for a start, playing sampled notes from a computer
via
> a
> > MIDI keyboard often results in a slightly delayed reaction known as
> latency.
> > Also streaming multiple audio channels from a computer in a live
situation
> > can be tempting fate a little too much due to a crash.
> >
> > You may find the best compromise is a sampler that uses a computer for
> > editing and managing samples, that are then dumped back into the
hardware
> > sampler via SCSI for playback.
> >
> > Hope this helps. I look forward to hearing other people's thoughts.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Jake B" <drummer@...>
> > Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:25:03 -0500
> > To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> > Subject: [AN1x-list] sampler or computer
> >
> >
> > Well I rarely post to the list but I am always reading and what not.
This
> > post really isn't about my wonderful AN1X but it might have some
impact on
> > it. I am looking into getting a sampler and debating between getting
an
> > actual hardware sampler. Thinking of a esi 4000 or 2000, something
along
> > those lines. Or if I should just build a computer dedicated to audio.
> And
> > use some sampling programs and also use it to sequence. I will most
> likely
> > and hopefully be using this set up live and it will have the An1x, a
akai
> > ax73 and in time a drum pad system running in/out of it. I think a
> computer
> > would be a more useful way to go but I really do like hardware
> > better...easier to use, less crashes....more buttons... but also more
> money
> > which I don't have.
> >
> > So if any of you have any suggestions...I am open for ideas.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jake
> >
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