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Subject: Re: PLG150-AN + Wind Control

From: jondl@...
Date: 2000-09-28

Not to confuse things, as Gary's answer makes sense, but what about
using MIDI CC #011 'Expression' as an alternative to #002 'Breath'?

In my AN1x/ASR-X combo I use #007 only to set a maximum Volume limit
for each ASR-X Track and #011 to adjust the level of the individaul
sound(s) assigned to each Track. Since I'm no wind instrument player
I use CC #002 as one of my default MIDI CCs for real time
assignments, i.e., typically assigned to whatever sound or FX parm I
want to modulate in real time.

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Gary Gregson" <gary@y...> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> Be careful here that you understand what you are controlling with
your WC!
>
> If you send out CC7 then you are not controlling "VCA Volume" of
the PLGAN
> card.....you are in fact controlling the volume of the MU1000 XG
part that
> is hosting the PLG card (i.e. the PLG return level to the MU
internal
> mixer!). In fact I am not sure that PLGAN has a default response to
CC7 (it
> may even be filtered from the PLG stream)...since it will always be
acted
> upon by the PLG host! Furthermore the XG devices tend to have a
relatively
> slow response to CC7!
>
> Hence you need to set up your WC to provide a different
> controller.....preferably one that the MU XG part does not respond
to. I
> would suggest you configure your WC to send Breath (CC2).
Thereafter, use
> An1xEdit to setup the Matrix feature of the voice to map CC2 to VCA
Volume
> i.e.
>
> Source=2
> Parameter= VCA Volume
> Depth = DIR (or whatever value you prefer)
>
> You should then get the kind of response you are after.
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
> Email:
> gary@y...
> http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lars.l.arnwald@t... [mailto:lars.l.arnwald@t...]
> Sent: 28 September 2000 05:01
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Subject: [AN1x-list] PLG150-AN + Wind Control
>
>
> Hello!
> After mostly working with the VL70-m + EWI3000 for the last 2 years
> I'm now shifting my attention to the PLG150-AN sitting in a MU100R.
I
> really like the sounds coming out of the PLG card. The whole concept
> feels so much more straightforward than the often mystery shrouded
> ins and outs of the VL70-m. Don't get me wrong, among other things
> the VL does some emulations I've never heard before. Having worked
> with analog stuff like the Oberheim SEM and Serge Modular since the
> mid 70's, one definitely recognizes the different components. As a
> fat bonus, many new great surprises take shape with the PLG. Still I
> have noticed very few postings regarding AN1x/PLG150-AN in
> conjunction with WC.
>
> However when it comes to WC response, the PLG150-AN differs from all
> other digital, analog, and hybrid models I've used together with my
> different wind controllers, EWI, WX7, and Lyricon Wind Driver. It
> doesn't respond well to the CC7 being generated by the wind sensor
of
> the EWI. It's impossible to get the same distinctive attacks like
the
> ones being generated by simple finger movements. It seems like the
> whole attack portion disappears, just leaving a numb, very different
> replica of the original sound. Fast tiki-tak-tata type of tounge
> attacks has never been a problem with the VL70-m, it tracks easily.
> Not so with the PLG. OK, when I turn off the EWI wind sensor output,
> no problem. Then, the PLG is as fast as the VL70-m. I guess I can
map
> the wind sensor to do something different, but I'm really used to
> control volume with it. Anybody has a remedy for this problem.
>
> Regards,
> Lars