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Subject: OT: Hardware vs Software Sequencing.... Again! :-)

From: Phil <accession@...>
Date: 2000-08-09

OT: Hardware vs Software Sequencing.... Again!  :-) Hi Peter,

Thanks for posting your experiences with Logic. I've never used, or even seen it (apart from pretty pictures in brochures), but all the same it has always had me wondering whether or not 'the grass really is greener on the other side of the fence'. I've noticed quite a number of people comment on the 'steep learning curve' and 'visual interface'.

What do you use for your sequencing? There is certainly something said about the more immediacy and flexible real-time arrangement that can be performed with hardware 'loop-based' sequencing. Although I once heard that an old version of maybe Vision (?) could have different parts of the track assigned to the computer keyboard's function keys, allowing one to update the various parts of the song as desired - sort of like the best of both worlds.

Cheers,

Phil  

 

From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@...>
Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:04:26 +0200
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Help setting up my AN1X for midi


From: "waylayer ..." <waylayer1@...>


> Taking your advice, I simply put the midi IN cord into the AN1X midi OUT,
> and instantly I had midi!! Woohoo!! Thanks...the best solution is usually
> the simplest :). By the way, I was using it with SimSynth, a great program
> that can simulate a wide variety of synth sounds. As for a sequencer, I
have
> an older version of Cubase, but I heard some good things about Logic
> Platinum, so I might have to check that out. Thanks again.

Glad to be able of help. Actually, I keep messing these up myself as well. I
usually plug them in and see if it works: if not, I switch them.

As for Logic Audio, I had heard good stories about that as well. You know,
enthousiastic users praising it high into the sky.

I tried it myself, on two different occassions, and ditched this load of
crap off my hard disk. Emagic has a really funny idea of what the user
interface of a program should look like, and keeping to either the Windows
or the Macintosh GUI conventions is a novelty that hasn't made it to their
part of Germany yet.

You can build your complete studio environment in Logic - which in your case
would just be your AN1x, so it looks a bit overkill - and after that you can
work from there. The key phrase here is 'after that'. Logic has a learning
curve that is alarmingly steep. Now people tell me that that is the price to
pay for its complexity, but I've been around in computerland for quite a
while now, and I can tell you that the people behind Logic simply cannot
build a decent, orthogonal and - oh, the irony - logical user interface.

The menus are needlessly cluttered and complicated, the help function is a
laugh (it names all the menu functions and nothing more). Performing a
certain action on an object (like right-clicking with the mouse) gives
different responses at different times, and it doesn't respond like any
other program would.

Don't get me wrong: Logic is powerful and flexible, very much so. But the
implementation is rather poorly conceived.

As for Cubase, I didn't bother to try it, since it won't run under Windows
NT.

Cakewalk is OK, because it ∗does∗ adhere to programming conventions, and
it's reasonably easy to navigate. But I also feel limited by it.

So I'm in favour of a hardware sequencer, or a software sequencer that works
like one, complete with transport controls in a seperate box.

Oh well.

- Peter


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