Do you mean z3ta+ from cakewalk? That's a pretty sweet piece of software....
Crap- I guess I went to the wrong place if I expected musicians to tell me
to sell a piece of gear (unless to them for very cheap :) ), but just the
same, I guess ill have to put some more thought into it. I read a post
recently (don't remember where, prob here) that said "would it be so hard to
put an fm synth, real analog filter, and some effects, sequencing etc in a
plastic case and sell it to the masses?" If that'd happen - all my
troubles'd be gone.... :)
On Mar 30, 2011 3:14 PM, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> zt3ai is about as close a sound to the an1x in a soft synth but lacks hand
on control and the 8 control nobs are great as you can have many controlers
set
>
> and the keyboard has a good feel
>
> i have tried some of the new synths on the block and have to say that the
keyboards are shit very flexible plastic
>
> i use both hardware and software and would not give up my asr10 keyboards
for any soft sampler as the polyphonic keyboard action is great and there is
still no soft synth that can perform poly aftertouch supposed to be coming
in vst3 but not as yet
>
> my asr10 is 19 years old so to me the software synths are still way behind
the hardware
>
> its all about the sound and i find it very hard to get soft synths and
samplers to sit in a mix like hard ware thats why i sample soft synths in to
my collection of samplers
>
> and then use them in the mix they always sound much better hence why top
producers still keep there most coverted hard ware
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Korsten
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] 3 things
>
>
>
> Op 30-3-2011 13:10, Nate King schreef:
>
> > my thought and argument though is that I can't justify taking up space
with
> > another digital synth. Does it sound good, unique, etc? Yes. But the
point
> > remains that if it's digital, then there "should" be a way to get
something
> > that sounds close or better out of another digital machine (i.e.: my
> > computer). so - i'm finding it hard to think out the reasons of why I
should
> > keep it around. So far every digital synth I've bought I at the time
thought
> > "Wow that has a lot of features and for a good price and sounds pretty
sweet
> > too!" and a few months later I found myself saying "meh" and getting rid
of.
> > The an1x has been the only one that's satisfied my gear lust. Just last
year
> > I owned jp-8080, alesis qs 6, roland jv 1080 and I know a handful of
others
> > I can't think of at the moment. No matter what I do, I still found
myself
> > twiddling with stuff in the computer more than these digital synths and
I
> > can get it to sound a lot better. The only exception is again the an1x,
but
> > with the recent addition of a dx7ii - it seems out of place (and
honestly
> > nearly completely useless when I run the dx7 through analog filters and
> > other effects and sequence it with something else).
>
> Fair enough, but one could also argue that analogue synths are just a
> bunch of transistors, resistors and capacitors thrown together, so
> basically they should all sound more or less the same. But there are
> different oscillator and filter designs - either in passive components,
> or in algorithms.
>
> The difference isn't really between digital and analogue, but more
> between subtractive synthesis (what the AN1x and all your analogue
> synths do) and other types of synthesis, like the frequency modulation
> synthesis of your DX7II, the additive synthesis of the K5000, or
> sample&synthesis in pretty much every other synth on the market.
>
> To me, the difference between 'analogue' and 'digital' is a non-issue,
> and I also don't quite see why there would be a discussion between the
> two. Does a MiniMoog sound better than a DX7? Not if you attempt to
> create an electric piano sound, that's for sure.
>
> But that also means that, in my view, you're focussing on irrelevant
> issues. The space issue is very important, but if it's that important,
> get rid of your DX7II and replace it with an FS1r. Sure, you'll need a
> computer editor, but what's the difference between mucking about with a
> synth editor and a soft synth? And anyway, there are some excellent FM
> soft synths.
>
> I'm not saying that you're wrong in your decision to get rid of the
> AN1x. What I'm saying is that you're using the wrong arguments to
> convince yourself. "There should be something that sounds close [...]" -
> no, not really. Unless someone stole the algorithm from Yamaha, in which
> case they may expect a court case.
>
> I'm pretty sure that there are soft synths, analogue modelling synths,
> that sound good enough for you to get rid of the AN1x. But I'm also
> quite sure that you won't find a soft synth that sounds "really close",
> let alone identical.
>
> In the end, it's all about the sound.
>
> - Peter
>
>
>
>
>
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