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Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Offtopic: Dutch smoke pot (was:Americans are ignorant )

From: mango <j.kolling@...>
Date: 2000-07-31

I truely think an MC-303 sounds and plays like crap, it really ∗is∗ just the marketing
scheme that makes it so popular. kimdof like "oh wauw, that box looks cool, i gotta have
one too" or "wow.. 303.. gotta have one too"

> Peter Korsten wrote:
>
>
> > Roland, for instance, doesn't really innovate: they just improve on what
> > others do, and sell it for an appropiate price.
>
> Actually they're tying to capitalize (though not in the best way) on their
> earlier successes, hence this "Groove Approved" mumbo jumbo. They like to tout,
> "Yeah, we made the 808 and the 909 and the 303. Are we ever gonna re-release em
> or make updated versions of them? No. Just buy this lame Groovebox instead.
> After all, it's 'Groove Approved.'"
>
> >Korg is pretty innovative (the spin-offs of their OASYS keyboard, like the
> Prophecy, Trinity and Z1)
>
> Not innovative in the true sense; the Z1 is just another VA synth, the Trinity
> is just a late '90s version of the M1 and the Triton is just another sampling
> workstation. Oh but wait! They're all in silver casings!
>
> But they ARE making products that the public wants and likes, for example the
> Electribes and the MS2000 (which currently is sold out in most stores, and won't
> get new shipments until October!)
>
> >Yamaha is even more innovative.
>
> True, though not with the best results, popularitywise. For example the FS1r,
> really is a good piece of equipment, but has lame presets and it never caught on.
> Hey but something has to be said for a company that takes risks. Though they're
> huge anyway and have been around for 113 years, so it's not like they're gonna
> go bankrupt anyway.
>
> Same with the EX series synths, which are some of the best sample-based synths
> you can find. Though apparently the CS1/2/6x models are apparently popular. I
> also like the
> QY-70, which is an amazing product that got very little publicity. Everyone I
> know who bought one, including me, learned of it word-of-mouth.
>
> > Kurzweil, which is American despite the German sounding name, does little to
> > innovate. Their VAST engine is quite old by now, even though their stuff is
> > top-end, and even more expensive than Roland.
>
> The WERE innovative; after all they came out with the first sample-based synth
> back in 1984 (The grand old Kurzweil 250) but for the past 8-9 years they've
> essentially came out with the same product (various versions of the K2000 <yawn>).
>
>
> > But really new and exciting stuff seems to come mainly from the UK
> > (Novation), Germany (Access, the late Quasimidi, Creamware), and Sweden
> > (Clavia, Elektron). Most of it seems to focus on analogue modelling, though.
>
> Well Clavia's NordLead started the whole virtual analog craze in the first place!
>
> They're sort of like cutting-edge independent record labels up against the majors...
>
> - 30 -
>
> :. elson trinidad, los angeles, california, usa
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