i disagree,
its not about good or bad...
its about personal taste,
you like green apples ? i dont, too sour for my taste
i like mustard!, you dont?
you like tb303? i sold mine becouse i was not 100% happy,
to me Yamaha PLG150-AN recreates/emulates the same tb-303 sound, or one i like even more, i only miss the slow knobs,
anyway, i like more the D-50 recreating a tb303, than the actual tb303 sound,
personal taste,
simple as that....
reading the access virus powercore manual its awesome, but when i listen the virus i dont like it, i only like 2 or 3 sounds in all the libraries! not crazy about it
its just personal taste
what does that mean?
that i think the waveforms sound is more important than the filter sound, opposite to most others may think,
becouse a bad sounding filter can be recreated later in signal chain with another external filter, like audiodamage dr.device, bassementarts franticfilter, korg ms20fx, sonic core interpole, sonicprojects.ch opx, sonictimeworks eq1, etc... but oscillator waveforms cannot
thats why is so faouse the yamaha DX100/7/etc.. sound + mutonix mutator
something like rebirth 338 v2.01 the tb303 + the PatternControlledFilter
sometimes it sounds like a whole new tb303
just listen the waveforn diference, some are SAME PACHES on diferent synths:
Novation A/V/K waveforms:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Club%204k%20Part%201%20-%20V-Station%20Soundset.mp3 vs.
Yamaha AN waveforms:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20CosmicX%20-%20Cs6x+An1xBoard%20Soundset.mp3 vs.
Korg waveforms:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Korg%20Legacy%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Roland jp8000 waveforms:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20X-Plorations%20vol%202%20-%20JP80x0%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Roland Sh-101 waveforms:
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Analog%20Essentials%20-%20TC%20Powercore01%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Steinberg A1 waveforms & ring mod. "waldorf vsti made for steinberg nuendo" i like the chorus & ringmod a lot!
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20A1%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Oddity waveforms "oddity is a digital ver. of arp oddisey an arp oddisey is a fixed & smaller "portable" version of arp2600"
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Oddity%20Mini-Bass%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Waldorf Q/MicroQ/Komplexer VSTi waveforms
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Q%20Trilogy%20vol%202%20-%20Q-MicroQ%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 vs.
Access Virus Access Virus a/b/c/rack/PoCo/TDM/Indigo/TI
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.vengeance-sound.de%20-%20Incubation%20V3%20-%20Virus%20C%20Soundset%20by%20Manuel%20Schleis.mp3 etc...
http://www.vengeance-sound.de/eng/indexFLASH.html vanguard, nexus, quasimidi polymorph, cakewalk raptor, zeta, etc..
are sampled based oscillators
but sampled based osc. sound also diferent
becouse how the samples were made , what AD was used, what wordclock, etc..
not all arp sounds the same, etc...not all korg ms20 sound the same, etc...
some record to tape first, some dont, what tape was used, etc...
becouse the Sample playback engine quality
.search &...listen tape808 samples and you will hear every VSTi/DXi/Rewire sampler sounds diferent with same samples!
etc...
i disagree on novation not as good as yamaha, it is just diferent
A=K=V
B not= V
dont know about X or Xio
but Xio if it a has 32 waveforms it means its probably sample based Osc. = diferent than A/K/V sound
but probably similar to B with 10 note polyphony
V-Station has 3x poly pure digital Oscillator waveform generator = it sounds diferent
B-Staton has 2x sampled Osc. mono waveform generator from Roland tb-303 samples or similar sh-101 or juno-60 etc...,
make same patch in both, same everything it will sound diferent <--------
V-Station cannot make B-Station sounds and backwards, waveforms are totally diferent
pure digital Square is not analog Square from roland or korg or oberheim
Saw its not Saw, etc...
X-station has Multi-effects Processor
A total of 6 effects per channel can be applied simultaneously to the onboard synthesizer and/or audio input(s)
K has vocoder,
V has no audio input, no vocoder :(
dont know if Xio has that. <-------------------- = read the manual .pdf
on the other hand.....
Yamaha Analog Physical Modeling has 2x digital pure digital waveform generator "VirtualAnalog VCOscillators"
with EDGE & velocity knobs that makes them sound not pure digital = it emulates the slew rate in some moog & roland oscillaor generator easy!, but also has its own unique sounds similar to prophet5
also yamaha has multi saw, that is a similar Yamaha version of roland super saw
or Roland Supersaw is a verson of Yamaha MultiSaw,
anyway,, its not about who made it first
its about personal taste
to me Yamaha AN its a 2osc. poly mix/blend between Prophet5, Moog & Roland
with added features like ring modulator & feedback from arp2600 probably! or a moog or emu modular that has a ringmod.
Novation V/K vengenace patches sound great but are not retro! will never sound retro becouse the oscillaors are too pure!
Korg Legacy AE2007 Polysix has a super nice retro square waveform, for my taste...
but the trend in global music , groups like justice, does not sound retro to me
from novation:
http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_control/xio/ Xio is the only Novation synthesiser to feature the X-Gator patch programmer. The X-Gator can be made to gate each patch to create unique 16-32 step rhythmic patterns for every onboard sound, all automatically synchronised to MIDI clock from a sequencer; just press and hold one key to groove along to a track with style. A display shows clearly the position and volume of each and every step
Specifications
Synthesizer
One part, 10-voice polyphonic
3 Oscillators, 17 Waveforms
2 LFOs, 32 Waveforms
Multimode resonant filter section with various filter options
Extensive modulation capabilities
Arpeggiator with latch
X-GATOR with latch
Direct streaming of synth into computer via USB
Keyboard
Keys: 25 or 49
Type: Semi-weighted
Velocity curves: 7
Pitch and mod wheel mechanism
Pitch wheel lever: Rubberised - centre return spring loaded left to right motion
Mod/control lever: Rubberised - spring loaded front to back motion
X/Y touchpad
Touchpad: 1 x touch sensitive 45x60mm
Parameters: 2 assignable in X direction
2 assignable in Y direction
LCD display
LCD: 2 x 16 character silver
Blue LED backlit
MIDI interfacing
MIDI: 1 MIDI Out
USB MIDI: 1 In/1 Out
Audio Interfacing
Inputs: 1 XLR (with phantom power)
1 TS Jack
Outputs: 2 TS Jack (L/R)
1 stereo Headphones Jack
Other interfacing
Data ports: 1 x USB 1.1
Sustain pedal: 1 x 1/4 Jack Input
Controls
Rotary potentiometers: 11, 0-270° rotation
Rotary encoders: 1, 360° continuous DATA wheel
Buttons: 11 function switches
Group B switch
General operation: 4 Mode and Menu select buttons
Keyboard Octave Up and Down buttons
Synth Menus/Audio mode select button
Effect Select buttons (Synth Mode)
Template/Bank/Page Up/Down buttons
Line/Phones Volume pots
General
Battery operation: 6 x standard 'AA' Size
External power supply: Standard 'centre positive' 9V DC 600mA (Novation PSU6)
Size (25): 468 x 68 x 190 (mm) w x h x d
Size (49): 798 x 68 x 190 (mm) w x h x d
Weight (25/49): 1.4/1.6kg
System requirements
Operating system: Mac OSX 10.2.4 or greater or Windows XP (32- and 64- bit Vista compatible)
Computer spec: Apple G3/400 GHz or Pentium 600 MHz or better
Interfacing: USB 1.1 compatible USB connector
Templates (16 preset onboard, more available on Novation website)
1. Apple Logic 7
2. Steinberg Cubase SX3
3. Ableton Live 5
4. Cakewalk Sonar
5. Native Instruments - Absynth 3
6. Native Instruments - B4
7. Native Instruments - FM7
8. Native Instruments - Pro53
9. Gmedia - Oddity
10. Novation V-Station
11. Novation Bass Station
12. reFX Vanguard
13. Linplug Albino 2
14. Gmedia - Minimonsta
15. Spectrasonics - Atmosphere & Trilogy
16. User Template
Reviews
Music Tech review quotes
December 2006
The Xio is a combination of the ideas implemented in other Novation keyboards, and aims to fulfil multiple performing and recording needs with a minimum of cabling and fuss.
If the interface and control features of the Xio are its brain, then the synth is its soul. Novation is renowned for authentic, gritty electronic sounds, and theres no shortage of them here.
The Xio is an excellent synth in its own right, powerful and gritty enough to hold its own on stage, and crisp enough to stand out in the studio.
For power and true portability at a reasonable price, the Xio is hard to beat.
Xcite+ Pack
Novation likes to set the standards, and their latest bundled software collection is no exception.
'Xcite+' comes on a DVD-ROM filled to the brim with royalty-free loops and samples alongside a host of powerful applications ideal for getting the new user started, or to expand the experienced users creative toolbox.
The bundle includes:
Ableton Live Lite 6
Novation Bass Station
Waldorf PPG Wave Lite classic synth
Arturia Analog Factory SE plug-in
Waldorf's D-Pole Lite FX classic filter plug-in
FXpansion's powerful 'BFD Ultra lite' acoustic drum plug-in and a demo version of the 'Guru' sample player with library
Waldorf's 'Attack Lite' analogue drum module plug-in
'Mike the Drummer' A collection of 572 inspiring and original live drum loops
Free 3 months membership for 'i-dance'- Global XS Artist
Novation-class Synthesizer
10-voice mono-timbral engine with multi-effects processor and 200 massive sounds.
High Profile User Patches
60 cool sounds from internationally-renowned artists and producers across a variety of musical genres
24-bit Audio Interface
Ultra-low latency 2 In/2 Out audio interface for high quality recording and playback; includes 1 XLR input with phantom power
MIDI Controller
Unrivalled MIDI controller with a host of assignable controls, 16 onboard Templates and hybrid modes for simultaneous synthesizing/controlling.
2-D Controls
Fantastic Xpression pad and pitch/mod joystick, both freely assignable in MIDI Controlling mode; allow 6 parameters to be tweaked at once!
USB/Battery Power
USB bus-powering is available, as well as optional battery (AA)/PSU operation, making the keyboard highly portable
nung242 <
nung242@...> wrote:
I have a K-station, and an AN1x. The sound of the k-station is comparable to the Xio.
If you are looking for a good controller with direct computer connection and a decent VA sysnth built in, the Xio synth will do fine.
If you want a VA synth that sounds IMHO as good as a Nord, Virus A or a roland JP8000, the AN1x is the way to go. And is 4 octaves, great for live use.
Even if you are not a sound designer, there are so many banks available on the net, you will be able to find the sounds you need for your music. : )
lunadog93 <
jamesmstone@...> wrote: Hi there,
Has anyone tried the Novation xiosynth? How does it compare to the an1x?
James
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