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Subject: [AN1x] Re: Sound problems with AN1x

From: "Arthur Alexander Crichton" <ac010b4919@...>
Date: 2008-02-15

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies but as stated on my last post I think I
fixed the problem as I have used my AN1x for 2 days now without any
of the sounds going all weird on me. I don't know what I did to fix
it but it seemed to fix when I pressed the "assign" button while
powering on the AN1x.

If my synth starts behaving badly again then I will try the all the
instruction that members have told me to do to try and fix it.

Cheers

Arthur

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi !
> it's not very complex if you have the schema, or at least the
general layout of your synth. Touch each IC in the right part of the
electronics (here the analog output circuit)with your fingertip, the
hotter one might be nearly dead. But some ICs like the voltage
regulators are normally hot. Of course avoid it when the mains
voltage is present, but on most synths there is an external DC
supply, and the voltages are low (9 or 12 V, 5V for the logic ICs,
even less for the DSPs or µPs).
> And NEVER put your fingers in a power amp, mostly with tubes!!
> A more sophisticated way to detect a heat related failure uses
a "cold spray" (available in electronic parts shops): cool down each
suspect chip when the sound goes wrong; if the problem disappears
you've found the failed device. Now the main problem is to find a new
one, in modern instruments you have a lot of specific ICs only
available by Yamaha (or other brand), if they agree to sell you
one....
> Cheers
> J.F.
>
> > Message du 14/02/08 23:03
> > De : "nung242"
> > A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Copie à :
> > Objet : Re: [AN1x] Re: Sound problems with AN1x
> >
> > > Its starting to sound like what one of the previous comments
said, a drifting IC chip or maybe a circuit that flakes out when it
gets warm. I have a novation KS-4 that does the same thing, its
irritating because I can use it for live shows anymore, cant trust it.
> >
> > Jason - TILLTHEN - http://www.youtube.com/tillthenmusik
> >
> > Arthur Alexander Crichton <ac010b4919@...> wrote: Hi,
> >
> > I don't have midi connected on my AN1x. The only cables connected
are
> > the power supply, headphones and line outputs.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Alex Baumann ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the suggestion to disconnect everything but power and
audio
> > may be a good one. Try this for a little while, because one
> > possibility is that something in your midi chain is sending it
> > controller data like volume and cutoff. Do you think that is
> > possible?
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Arthur Alexander Crichton ...>
> > > To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:10:01 AM
> > > Subject: [AN1x] Re: Sound problems with AN1x
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have tested my AN1x with just the headphones
> > connected and the
> > >
> > > problem seems to have disappeared. I then tested with the line
> > >
> > > outputs connected and still there is no problem. Finally I
tested
> > >
> > > with the headphones and line outputs both connected and again
no
> > >
> > > problems.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem seems to have disappeared.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Could it be that...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) I pressed the "assign" button while powering on the synth
that
> > >
> > > fixed the problem
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) My AN1x is temperamental?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com, "Arthur Alexander Crichton"
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Haha its been along time since someone has called me Alex:)
Ok, I
> > >
> > > > have removed the left and right line outputs and left the
> > >
> > > headphones
> > >
> > > > in. So far the problem has disappeared. I will disconnect the
> > >
> > > > headphones and connect the line outputs and see if the
problem
> > >
> > > > returns.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I'll report back if there is any probems.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Cheers
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Arthur
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com, Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello Alex!
> > >
> > > > > as you describe your problem it looks like something wrong
in
> > the
> > >
> > > > analog output circuit: dry solder joint, bad contact or
> > some "ill"
> > >
> > > op
> > >
> > > > amp or transistor that goes out when hot. The heat related
> > failure
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > probable because it works well for a short time and after the
> > sound
> > >
> > > > decreases, a contact problem would occur more irregularly.
I'm
> > not
> > >
> > > at
> > >
> > > > home currently, so i cannot open mine to tell you what to
look
> > and
> > >
> > > > where. I don't think it is a fatal issue at all, but it could
> > take
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > > > long time to find the faulty part.
> > >
> > > > > You can try 2 things without opening the synth:
> > >
> > > > > First remove all additional devices (effects, patch bay..)
> > >
> > > between
> > >
> > > > the AN1x and the amp or mixer.
> > >
> > > > > Then turn on your synth with the line out plugged only,play
it,
> > >
> > > > > and after do the same thing without line out but with
> > headphones
> > >
> > > > only.
> > >
> > > > > If you're using a mixer try another input with the line out
> > >
> > > > connected.
> > >
> > > > > Look (or more likely hear !) if there is some
difference.. ..
> > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > >
> > > > > J.F.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Message du 14/02/08 00:42
> > >
> > > > > > De : "Arthur Alexander Crichton"
> > >
> > > > > > A : AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com
> > >
> > > > > > Copie à :
> > >
> > > > > > Objet : Re: [AN1x] Sound problems with AN1x
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I tried a factory reset and played the affected
sounds
> > >
> > > > again and
> > >
> > > > > > it seemed to fix the problem. Then I leave my AN1x on and
5
> > >
> > > > minutes
> > >
> > > > > > later the problem comes back:(
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > What will I do? Is my AN1x ready for the synth graveyard
in
> > the
> > >
> > > > sky?
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Please advise
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Arthur
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com, "Arthur Alexander
> > Crichton"
> > >
> > > > > > ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > How do I reload the OS?
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Is it the same as a factory reset? If so, I did a
factory
> > >
> > > reset
> > >
> > > > but
> > >
> > > > > > > the problem still persists.
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > The problem is when I keep the key pressed the sound
just
> > >
> > > > abruptly
> > >
> > > > > > > goes dull and low in volume which it shouldn't do. Its
like
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > > cutoff has gone to "0" and the main volume has gone low.
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Arthur
> > >
> > > > > > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com, nung242 wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > I would try backing up your patches, then maybe
reload
> > the
> > >
> > > > OS. It
> > >
> > > > > > > worked for a problem I was having on my K-Station. Good
> > Luck!
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube com/tillthenmusi k See the AN1x
in
> > >
> > > > > > > action on the song " legend "
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Arthur Alexander Crichton >
> > >
> > > > > > > wrote: Hi,
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > I have a problem with my Yamaha AN1x.
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > When I select some pad sounds on my AN1x the sounds
are
> > >
> > > > bright
> > >
> > > > > > and
> > >
> > > > > > > > after about 3 seconds the sound just cuts off to a
duller
> > >
> > > > sound
> > >
> > > > > > > which
> > >
> > > > > > > > is very low in volume. When I press the keys again
all I
> > >
> > > get
> > >
> > > > is
> > >
> > > > > > a
> > >
> > > > > > > > faint dull sound. I try to play the keys harder but I
> > still
> > >
> > > > get
> > >
> > > > > > > this
> > >
> > > > > > > > sound. Before I had this problem, those paticular
patches
> > >
> > > > used
> > >
> > > > > > to
> > >
> > > > > > > > sound bright and full. Also, I have noticed some
sounds
> > >
> > > sound
> > >
> > > > > > > thinner
> > >
> > > > > > > > than what they used to and that sounds that rely on
> > >
> > > arpeggio
> > >
> > > > or
> > >
> > > > > > > lfo
> > >
> > > > > > > > sound muddy and strange.
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > What is wrong with my beloved AN1X?
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > I have tried cleaning the control knobs with switch
> > cleaner
> > >
> > > > but
> > >
> > > > > > I
> > >
> > > > > > > > still get the same problem. BTW the rom version on my
> > AN1x
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > > > v1.02
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Please help.
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Arthur
> > >
> > > > > > > >
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