[sdiy] [OT] I love physical modelling

[anthony]

The first crriterion I have to meet is spending as close to $0.0 as 
possible - shoestring budgets (fixed income) do not allow Space Echos - as 
much as I'd love one.

>From what I've read about studio techniques on the cheap the trick is to use 
several types of reverb at once, so I will be using the 2 ADA STD-1 clones 
(from the 2 MN3011's I got on eBay for $0.01/per), a dual Fisher K-10 clone 
in a 19" rack (with different springs), my DOD R-870 (modded with a bigger 
timing cap to get a much longer delay from the MN3005)...

I have the R-870 (which sounds awesome) - all I have to do is make the 2 
STD-1's and K10's. I actually HAVE almost all of the parts for all of that 
scavanged - and all the time in the world.

But to get the room sound right I have to have some sort of digital reverb. 
Analog units of any kind just can't model it. Ask Lexacon. I mean if I 
really wanted to do it right, I'd get a Lexacon, but I'm disabled and dirt 
poor so I make do with a throwaway PC made more or less bullet proof with 
whatever scraps of whaever I have, judicious system configuration and a good 
VST plug-in for a reverb. If I could find a few good Linux VST plugins, I'd 
make a system from that. But - and I don't know if it's because I first 
learned about computers from using Amigas, UNIX systems and Macs, but I 
rarely ever had a crash on any of my Win98SE machines and NEVER on my newish 
Dell running WinXP/SP2. And the crashes I did have in 98 were found to 
almost all be virus related. My Amiga crashed more (but I was running 1.3). 
All of my PC's except for my Dell were lashed together out of junk and parts 
given to me and only disappointed me by being slow... But I digress...

I try for an Alesis MIDIverb II or an Alesis Wedge on eBay from time to 
time, but bidding on those items is fierce enough to leave me cold.

I do like spring reverbs a lot.

> Awsome stereo reverb
> Try two premire reverberation or a Roland Space Echo.
>  If its Digital it will not be "Awesome stereo reverb" it will be  brittle 
> and lacking demension characteristics
> Love and Tube tone
> Flame off
>  Tom
> On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:58 PM, anthony wrote:
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>> Well the ideal thing would be to get a Muse Receptor. You can use  your 
>> PC VST plugins without having to run windows, but those are  expensive.
>>
>> My solution is basically the same as what a lot of professional  music 
>> acts are doing with Receptors. I was going to use Win98SE. I  figure if 
>> you pare it down and turn off everything but the MIDI  interface it 
>> wouldn't be half bad.
>>
>> And sounding "fake" is a subjective thing. The main thing I want is  an 
>> awesome stereo reverb. I have a couple of Waves reverb plugins  that are 
>> pretty rad - having a unit deicated just to them would  suit me fine.
>>
>>
>>> and it would still sound like a fake ..............And the PC  would 
>>> crash because Windows is a plauge ship OS
>>> Love one of the "handful of nuts"
>>> "what would you rather see a picture of a condor or a condor?" Ed
>>> "Condor no question" Lenoard................  Northern Exposure
>>> On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:45 PM, anthony wrote:
>>>
>>>> It has occured to me lately that PCs that are fast enough to run 
>>>> pretty complex VST plug-ins are getting very cheap on eBay. A  1GHz 
>>>> PIII shoudl do the trick. I have planned to do this with a  number  of 
>>>> favorite plug-ins: soft soft synths others audio  preocessors  (like 
>>>> the Wave series). It would be ideal to have a  19" cabinet to  stuff it 
>>>> all in. You could set it up to not need  a monitor or  keyboard or 
>>>> mouse. You could make a a control  suface using Thorsten  Klose's 
>>>> MIDIbox platform.
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >That's been my thought on other software.  There are a number of
>>>>>> interesting things that have come out as VST plugins that I wish
>>>>>> instead were available as a separate rackmount hardware  module.   I 
>>>>>> wish
>>>>>> those developers weren't so focussed only on the computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen to that.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I can of course see their point: software package sells for  $199.
>>>>> Just print the box, press the CD, and a manual. Sell it download- only
>>>>> for $169 and make even more money out of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hardware box then goes for let's say $399 but requires far more
>>>>> money to produce and implies (especially if you plan to sell   within 
>>>>> the
>>>>> EU) far more hassles.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why bother just because of a handfull of nuts who insist of  having
>>>>> "real" hardware at their hands?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rainer
>>>>>
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