SV: Re: [sdiy] fare thee well DX7

[karl dalen]

http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?storyCode=4498

has a FM list, alltought incomplete, many japanese models 
and european models are missing.

TG33 isnt even a FM synth, its just a down scaled wavestation. 

KD

--- nate reeves <natere2 at adelphia.net> skrev:

> no its not free, i meant you can get it for FREE (not advocating piracy 
> here)
> should be though, or at most $50, software is not worth the price, at 
> least to me. .
> i agree, the FM synths from yamaha are not a knob tweaker's dream to 
> say the least!
> chees
> nate
> 
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Seb Francis wrote:
> 
> > FM7's a free download now?  Are we talking about the same plugin?
> > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=fm7_us
> >
> > I guess people think it sounds like the DX7 because it is capable of 
> > exactly the same FM architecture and parameters and can even load FM7 
> > patches.  As Samppa just pointed out the difference in sound is most 
> > likely to do with the DAC and opamp quality (but I guess it could also 
> > be something to do with internal maths errors).  I've never compared 
> > the 2, but I do really like the FM7 and I use it as my primary FM 
> > synth.
> >
> > And yeah, mouse is bad, knobs are good :)  But compare programming a 
> > DX7 with an FM7 .. surely even the most die-hard hardware fan will not 
> > prefer the DX7 ... I think FM programming in general does not lend 
> > itself well to hardware based user interface.  The UI of the FM7 is 
> > very well thought out and for me makes FM programming very accessible.
> >
> > Seb
> >
> >
> > nate reeves wrote:
> >> fm7 is good for a free download, not sure why everyone thinks it 
> >> SOUNDS like dx7s
> >> and the mouse.....didn't we already have this discussion? ;)
> >> cheers
> >> nate
> >>
> >> On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Seb Francis wrote:
> >>
> >>> Samppa Tolvanen wrote:
> >>>> On 4/15/06, Seb Francis <seb at burnit.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm pretty sure the FM7 won't save it's patches as SysEx (only the 
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> way round) - at least I can't see a way to do it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But why would you want to use a DX7 anyway if you had FM7?  
> >>>>> Doesn't the
> >>>>> DX7 create it's sounds digitally?  So what's the advantage in 
> >>>>> having a
> >>>>> bulky bit of hardware with a horrible editing interface when you 
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> just use the FM7.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Could it be equally horrible DACs and true analogue noisy OPAMPs?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> You're right :)
> >>> Ok, so you'd have to run the FM7 through a bit-reduction / digital 
> >>> non-linearity type plugin, then mix in a bit of hiss ...
> >>>
> >>> Seb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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