[sdiy] RE: RE: RE: [sdiy] döpfer touchplate keyboard

[mark verbos]

No micro in the Serge. just regular CMOS.

I am not convinced that the Serge is the end all be all, it is just a 
really simple and effective way to do this kind of circuit. The Buchla 
designs use WAY more parts.

IMHO he should drop the individual voltage outs and give it MIDI. Still 
have a main CV and gate out, but who really needs 25 CV outs? The pulse 
outs maight come in useful fromt ime to time. the world could use a MIDI 
touchplate keyboard.

I get the feeling that many of Doepfer's modules are not all that 
intelligently thought out. It seems to be a stress of the low coat and 
quantity of modules available. Not on how powerful each module is.

the good news is that, even if it is the SAME circuit as a Serge, now 
the $1500 Serge TKB is no longer then only one on the market. I would 
guess that the inclusion of a sequencer function in the Doepfer one is 
only there to make his appear to be on the same level.

mark

Rhen, Kris wrote:

> > > So then your statement, without the schematics, is pretty
> > useless, and
> > > the only reason you'd wonder out loud such a thing is to
> > make others
> > > wonder too :-)  But again, even from the pic, anyone can
> > see there's
> > > enough functionality difference that surely the same
> > schematic isn't
> > > under there...
> > >
> > http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufacturers/Serge/schematics/
> >
> > add another pair of 4051's with their enable pins toggled from the
> > trigger to get the individual pulse outs. The individual CV outs come
> > from before the summing section. for each row of pots.
> >
> > If he does add MIDI, which has not been done yet, then there will be
> > something new on the table.
>
> I believe there's lots of digital under the Doepfer overall from what 
> they've said.  Does the serge have a Microp (I can't tell)?
>
> Besides, how many manufacturers really bring 'new things' to the 
> table?  How many have made their OWN version of a VA?  How many made 
> their OWN version of a MIDI controller, or even a keyboard for an 
> analog?  Just because it fills a similar need doesn't make it bad all 
> of a sudden - otherwise all the Modular manufacturers here should pack 
> up and go home because their mixers use opamps...
>
> KRIS
>