The Mellotron Group

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
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Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 6:09 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...


 


Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
 
Frank
 

In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
  
Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking:

1st frame:
Cello
MKII violins or M400 violins
Flute

2nd frame:
8 choir
MKII violins or oboe (or something else?)
Brass

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right?

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.





Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
 
Frank
 

In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
  
Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking:

1st frame:
Cello
MKII violins or M400 violins
Flute

2nd frame:
8 choir
MKII violins or oboe (or something else?)
Brass

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right?

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DaSwans
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:18 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...


  

Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one
violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400
violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each
between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and
free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe).
Here's what I'm thinking:

1st frame:
Cello
MKII violins or M400 violins
Flute

2nd frame:
8 choir
MKII violins or oboe (or something else?)
Brass

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use
the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not
being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is
certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I
won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right?

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: lsf5275@aol.com 
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings... 







Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out. 

Frank 


In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes: 




Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking: 

1st frame: 
Cello 
MKII violins or M400 violins 
Flute 

2nd frame: 
8 choir 
MKII violins or oboe (or something else?) 
Brass 

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right? 

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.

>
> Hmmm... 
> 
> 
> Tuned brass? Should all sounds be tuned? How tuned? 
> 
> 
> I know the sounds on my original frame are miles apart in tuning. Flute and cello aren't even close, which sounds very Mellotrony indeed. I do want it to sound like a Mellotron. So that's another question then, to buy tuned or untuned? 
> 
> 
> 
> I love the new sounds. I actually want my next frame to be the New string section, chamber woodwinds, and Russian choir. I think that one has the potential to be the best frame ever. However, I want to nail the classic sounds first. 
> 
> 
> Bass clarinet has potential. 
> 
> 
> Like some others have said, it's good to have strings, choir and brass on the same frame for blending and just playing. What about string section 2 (3 violins, viola, no cello)? A little beefier, but still close enough to the regular violins to do some blending for a slightly different variation on the "Watcher of the Skies" sound. 
> 
> 
> Keep 'em comin' guys. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: lsf5275@... 
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out. 
> 
> Frank 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@... writes: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking: 
> 
> 1st frame: 
> Cello 
> MKII violins or M400 violins 
> Flute 
> 
> 2nd frame: 
> 8 choir 
> MKII violins or oboe (or something else?) 
> Brass 
> 
> If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right? 
> 
> Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.
>

-----Original Message-----
From: tspit74@comcast.net
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 9:25 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...


  
    
                  

Hmmm...


Tuned brass? Should all sounds be tuned? How tuned?


I know the sounds on my original frame are miles apart in tuning. Flute and cello aren't even close, which sounds very Mellotrony indeed. I do want it to sound like a Mellotron. So that's another question then, to buy tuned or untuned?



I love the new sounds. I actually want my next frame to be the New string section, chamber woodwinds, and Russian choir. I think that one has the potential to be the best frame ever. However, I want to nail the classic sounds first. 


Bass clarinet has potential. 


Like some others have said, it's good to have strings, choir and brass on the same frame for blending and just playing. What about string section 2 (3 violins, viola, no cello)? A little beefier, but still close enough to the regu lar violins to do some blending for a slightly different variation on the "Watcher of the Skies" sound.


Keep 'em comin' guys.
----- Original Message -----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...

 
  
    
                  

Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
 
Frank
 

In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
    
  
Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one   violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm   just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames)   or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on   the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm   thinking:

1st frame:
Cello
MKII violins or M400   violins
Flute

2nd frame:
8 choir
MKII violins or oboe (or   something else?)
Brass

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need   the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The   tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string   sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on   a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool,   right?

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.

>
> 
>  don't tune them.  keep it real! tuning is way overrated.
> 
> fritz
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tspit74@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 9:25 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> 
> Tuned brass? Should all sounds be tuned? How tuned?
> 
> 
> I know the sounds on my original frame are miles apart in tuning. Flute and cello aren't even close, which sounds very Mellotrony indeed. I do want it to sound like a Mellotron. So that's another question then, to buy tuned or untuned?
> 
> 
> 
> I love the new sounds. I actually want my next frame to be the New string section, chamber woodwinds, and Russian choir. I think that one has the potential to be the best frame ever. However, I want to nail the classic sounds first. 
> 
> 
> Bass clarinet has potential. 
> 
> 
> Like some others have said, it's good to have strings, choir and brass on the same frame for blending and just playing. What about string section 2 (3 violins, viola, no cello)? A little beefier, but still close enough to the regu lar violins to do some blending for a slightly different variation on the "Watcher of the Skies" sound.
> 
> 
> Keep 'em comin' guys.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lsf5275@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
>  
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
>  
> Frank
>  
> 
> In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@... writes:
>     
>   
> Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one   violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm   just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames)   or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on   the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm   thinking:
> 
> 1st frame:
> Cello
> MKII violins or M400   violins
> Flute
> 
> 2nd frame:
> 8 choir
> MKII violins or oboe (or   something else?)
> Brass
> 
> If one has MKII violins, will he ever need   the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The   tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string   sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on   a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool,   right?
> 
> Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.
>

>
> 
> don't tune them. keep it real! tuning is way overrated.
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tspit74@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 9:25 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> 
> Tuned brass? Should all sounds be tuned? How tuned?
> 
> 
> I know the sounds on my original frame are miles apart in tuning. Flute and cello aren't even close, which sounds very Mellotrony indeed. I do want it to sound like a Mellotron. So that's another question then, to buy tuned or untuned?
> 
> 
> 
> I love the new sounds. I actually want my next frame to be the New string section, chamber woodwinds, and Russian choir. I think that one has the potential to be the best frame ever. However, I want to nail the classic sounds first. 
> 
> 
> Bass clarinet has potential. 
> 
> 
> Like some others have said, it's good to have strings, choir and brass on the same frame for blending and just playing. What about string section 2 (3 violins, viola, no cello)? A little beefier, but still close enough to the regu lar violins to do some blending for a slightly different variation on the "Watcher of the Skies" sound.
> 
> 
> Keep 'em comin' guys.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lsf5275@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@... writes:
> 
> 
> Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking:
> 
> 1st frame:
> Cello
> MKII violins or M400 violins
> Flute
> 
> 2nd frame:
> 8 choir
> MKII violins or oboe (or something else?)
> Brass
> 
> If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right?
> 
> Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.
>

-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 11:36 am
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Opinion sought on strings...


  
    
                  
IMHO... Your opinion is wrong Fritz.
    
HaaaaaHAAAAA ArrrrArrr :-)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
>
> 
>  don't tune them.  keep it real! tuning is way overrated.
> 
> fritz
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tspit74@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 9:25 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> 
> Tuned brass? Should all sounds be tuned? How tuned?
> 
> 
> I know the sounds on my original frame are miles apart in tuning. Flute and cello aren't even close, which sounds very Mellotrony indeed. I do want it to sound like a Mellotron. So that's another question then, to buy tuned or untuned?
> 
> 
> 
> I love the new sounds. I actually want my next frame to be the New string section, chamber woodwinds, and Russian choir. I think that one has the potential to be the best frame ever. However, I want to nail the classic sounds first. 
> 
> 
> Bass clarinet has potential. 
> 
> 
> Like some others have said, it's good to have strings, choir and brass on the same frame for blending and just playing. What about string section 2 (3 violins, viola, no cello)? A little beefier, but still close enough to the regu lar violins to do some blending for a slightly different variation on the "Watcher of the Skies" sound.
> 
> 
> Keep 'em comin' guys.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lsf5275@...
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:09:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
> 
>  
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> Forget the M400 strings. For frame 2, I recommend something on track B that mixes well with brass, or perhaps one of the newer sounds. I am enamored with the new string section, but I also love the Bass Clarinet. If you get the Clarinet, you may want to consider the tuned version of Mark II Brass. Otherwise, attempting to mix it with the brass might make your teeth fall out.
>  
> Frank
>  
> 
> In a message dated 12/23/2009 12:19:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@... writes:
>     
>   
> Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one   violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm   just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames)   or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on   the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm   thinking:
> 
> 1st frame:
> Cello
> MKII violins or M400   violins
> Flute
> 
> 2nd frame:
> 8 choir
> MKII violins or oboe (or   something else?)
> Brass
> 
> If one has MKII violins, will he ever need   the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The   tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string   sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on   a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool,   right?
> 
> Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.
>


    
             

  
 
=

From: DaSwans <tspit74@comcast.net>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Opinion sought on strings...
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:17 PM


  



Just trying to get opinions here. For those of you with more than one violin sound, what are your thoughts on having both MKII and M400 violins? I'm just trying to decide if I should have both types (one each between 2 frames) or just choose one (MKII seems to be prefered) and free up the last bank on the 2nd frame with something else (like oboe). Here's what I'm thinking:

1st frame:
Cello
MKII violins or M400 violins
Flute

2nd frame:
8 choir
MKII violins or oboe (or something else?)
Brass

If one has MKII violins, will he ever need the 400's? Or do you just use the MKII's and dial the tone control back? The tradeoff I see is not being able to blend the brass and choir with a string sound which is certainly a big plus. However, I don't want to waste a bank on a sound I won't use. And that Tangerine Dream oboe is really cool, right?

Guide me all you Mellotron Yodas out there.

>
> As of now, I'm leaning towards:
> 
> MKII brass
> String section w/ cello
> 8 voice choir
> 
> All untuned.
> 
> The String section sounds about as German a sound as I can imagine.  
> With those 3 sounds, I could set up a nice 23 second ambient wash of  
> string section with my Gigadelay, loop it, and play flourishes of  
> choir and brass for days on end until my wife has me hauled away to  
> the looney bin. Tangerine who?
> 
> Why untuned? Because any records I've grown up listening to and thus  
> made me lust after this instrument in the first place, all had untuned  
> tapes. I never knew what the keyboard on "Siberian Khatru" was. I just  
> knew I couldn't get the sound on my brother's D-50. Why? I'm assuming  
> because his D-50 was in tune. Same with any song with a Mellotron. You  
> can get a note close with a synth, but when you add the rest, they  
> just sound boring. I don't think I want my Mellotron to sound perfect,  
> so much as I want it to sound right. Right?
> 
> Feel free to tell me that my reasoning is stupid and I should  
> reconsider either of my positions on tuning or the sound set. I'm sure  
> I'll wake up in the morning feeling completely differently anyway. But  
> I am getting close,r and you guys have been a big help. I feel like  
> I'm finally making some progress.
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Daniel Swanson wrote:
> 
> > Good point.
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:49 PM, lsf5275@... wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Wrong. But if you get Mark II Strings and Cello on the same frame,  
> >> you're nearly there when you mix them anyway.
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/23/2009 10:09:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@... 
> >>  writes:
> >> I think it would be cool, but you probably can't play more than 2  
> >> notes at a time, right?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> I have a CMC-10 too. It takes about 45 minutes to warm up and get to  
> something resembling a proper speed and it's pretty noisy. I do hope  
> to replace mine down the road. I'd rather not have to crank the pitch  
> knob so high on startup and keep moving it down as it warms up.  
> However, I do hope modern replacement motor control cards don't take  
> all the character away. I do like a little wow and flutter.
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:52 PM, markpringnz wrote:
> 
> > Funny how subjective this all is, anyway I would have Mark II 3  
> > violins, Cello, and M300 strings. But then I only really like the  
> > mellotron string sounds. I would also have untuned on pretty much  
> > the same reasoning as you stated. I don't like the string section  
> > sound and generally the fewer keys you press at once on a tron the  
> > better it sounds! It's easy enough to alter the tuning after  
> > recording if you are not happy, anyway for those of us with a CM10  
> > ( which I'm keeping for the same reason ) it's never in the same  
> > tuning for long!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Swanson  
> > <tspit74@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As of now, I'm leaning towards:
> > >
> > > MKII brass
> > > String section w/ cello
> > > 8 voice choir
> > >
> > > All untuned.
> > >
> > > The String section sounds about as German a sound as I can imagine.
> > > With those 3 sounds, I could set up a nice 23 second ambient wash of
> > > string section with my Gigadelay, loop it, and play flourishes of
> > > choir and brass for days on end until my wife has me hauled away to
> > > the looney bin. Tangerine who?
> > >
> > > Why untuned? Because any records I've grown up listening to and thus
> > > made me lust after this instrument in the first place, all had  
> > untuned
> > > tapes. I never knew what the keyboard on "Siberian Khatru" was. I  
> > just
> > > knew I couldn't get the sound on my brother's D-50. Why? I'm  
> > assuming
> > > because his D-50 was in tune. Same with any song with a Mellotron.  
> > You
> > > can get a note close with a synth, but when you add the rest, they
> > > just sound boring. I don't think I want my Mellotron to sound  
> > perfect,
> > > so much as I want it to sound right. Right?
> > >
> > > Feel free to tell me that my reasoning is stupid and I should
> > > reconsider either of my positions on tuning or the sound set. I'm  
> > sure
> > > I'll wake up in the morning feeling completely differently anyway.  
> > But
> > > I am getting close,r and you guys have been a big help. I feel like
> > > I'm finally making some progress.
> > > On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Daniel Swanson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good point.
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:49 PM, lsf5275@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Wrong. But if you get Mark II Strings and Cello on the same  
> > frame,
> > > >> you're nearly there when you mix them anyway.
> > > >>
> > > >> In a message dated 12/23/2009 10:09:44 P.M. Eastern Standard  
> > Time, tspit74@
> > > >> writes:
> > > >> I think it would be cool, but you probably can't play more than 2
> > > >> notes at a time, right?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> No... You have a distorted understanding of what it should be and how  it 
> should work. SMS boards replaced the CMC-10 early on. Today, the SMS-2  
> (Streetly) and SMS-5 (Markus) are very similar to the original SMS-2 and SMS-3.  
> The CMC was a piece of shit. That's why an improvement was found early on. 
> No  more waiting 45 minutes. You turn it on and (assuming everything is 
> properly  adjusted) go. Plus, you don't go flat when you play depress a bunch of 
> keys at  the same time.
>  
> How do you depress the keys, you ask? Why you threaten to introduce them to 
>  Rick. (Bada Bing)
>  
>  
> In a message dated 12/24/2009 1:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> tspit74@... writes:
> 
> I do  like a little wow and  flutter.
>

> Rick. (Bada  Bing)
> 
> 
> In a message dated  12/24/2009 1:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> tspit74@...  writes:
> 
> I do  like a little wow and flutter.
>

>
> See, that's strange because James Parthun's #872 Dennytron has a later  
> motor card. Was it common for people to retrofit their Mellotrons with  
> newer motor control cards? Were they available separately back then?
> On Dec 24, 2009, at 12:38 AM, markpringnz wrote:
> 
> > Well it wasn't that early on! #1565 has one and I think they only  
> > started using the new controller card around the time #1565 was  
> > produced so wouldn't most M400's have the cm10, mine sounds ok, I  
> > think!
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@ wrote:
> > >
> > > No... You have a distorted understanding of what it should be and  
> > how it
> > > should work. SMS boards replaced the CMC-10 early on. Today, the  
> > SMS-2
> > > (Streetly) and SMS-5 (Markus) are very similar to the original  
> > SMS-2 and SMS-3.
> > > The CMC was a piece of shit. That's why an improvement was found  
> > early on.
> > > No more waiting 45 minutes. You turn it on and (assuming  
> > everything is
> > > properly adjusted) go. Plus, you don't go flat when you play  
> > depress a bunch of
> > > keys at the same time.
> > >
> > > How do you depress the keys, you ask? Why you threaten to  
> > introduce them to
> > > Rick. (Bada Bing)
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/24/2009 1:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tspit74@ writes:
> > >
> > > I do like a little wow and flutter.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 6:31 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Opinion sought on strings...


 


No... You have a distorted understanding of what it should be and how it should work. SMS boards replaced the CMC-10 early on. Today, the SMS-2 (Streetly) and SMS-5 (Markus) are very similar to the original SMS-2 and SMS-3. The CMC was a piece of shit. That's why an improvement was found early on. No more waiting 45 minutes. You turn it on and (assuming everything is properly adjusted) go. Plus, you don't go flat when you play depress a bunch of keys at the same time.
 
How do you depress the keys, you ask? Why you threaten to introduce them to Rick. (Bada Bing)
 

In a message dated 12/24/2009 1:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
I do like a little wow and flutter.


No... You have a distorted understanding of what it should be and how it should work. SMS boards replaced the CMC-10 early on. Today, the SMS-2 (Streetly) and SMS-5 (Markus) are very similar to the original SMS-2 and SMS-3. The CMC was a piece of shit. That's why an improvement was found early on. No more waiting 45 minutes. You turn it on and (assuming everything is properly adjusted) go. Plus, you don't go flat when you play depress a bunch of keys at the same time.
 
How do you depress the keys, you ask? Why you threaten to introduce them to Rick. (Bada Bing)
 

In a message dated 12/24/2009 1:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
I do like a little wow and flutter.