The Mellotron Group

>
> Nah, there are people here that talk about those and samples all the time.
> I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.  I started out on the old
> group with the M-Tron software and I don't think anyone made fun of me too
> much...except for Frank.
> jb
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, john.mcnamara65 <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> >
> >  
> >
>

>
> Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group.  I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
>

>
> Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
>
>
>
> If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
>

>
> I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz.  It was during the Emulator days.  If you look at your
> Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's.  Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> (where I also got factory trained).  Those were fun times.....
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> >
>

>
> I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
>
>
>
> I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> >
>

>
> I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out.  You could control your Vintage module from
> the laptop & keyboard you have.  If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > >
> >
>

>
> Thats what i'm thinking. I have a midisport cable but the settings in this Live professor vst shell are confusing. No clear way of spliting keyboard or changing patches. (not many controllers on the usb keyboard)
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> >
> > I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> > these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out.  You could control your Vintage module from
> > the laptop & keyboard you have.  If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> > 
> > 
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > > >
> > > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out.  You could control your Vintage module from
> the laptop & keyboard you have.  If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > >
> >
>

>
> Thats what i'm thinking. I have a midisport cable but the settings in this Live professor vst shell are confusing. No clear way of spliting keyboard or changing patches. (not many controllers on the usb keyboard)
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> >
> > I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> > these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out. You could control your Vintage module from
> > the laptop & keyboard you have. If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > > >
> > > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out. You could control your Vintage module from
> the laptop & keyboard you have. If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
>
>
>
> Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > >
> >
>

>
> Actually I have a Ventilator....they're $500 and worth every penny.  I had the XK-3 and then upgraded to the XK-3c which had a much better simulator built in
> but the Ventilator is still the best sounding sim out there.  I built an interface so it connects via the 11 pin Leslie output on the Hammond.  I used to have B3s,
> C3's and several 122 Leslies but with my current set up I don't really miss them.
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:35 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> How do you like the Hammond? I've heard some people aren't happy with the Leslie function. Some guys are using the Neoventilator. It sounds awesome. it's $400.00 bucks though.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> > these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out. You could control your Vintage module from
> > the laptop & keyboard you have. If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > > >
> > > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
>
>
>
> If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
>

>
> Actually I have a Ventilator....they're $500 and worth every penny. I had the XK-3 and then upgraded to the XK-3c which had a much better simulator built in
> but the Ventilator is still the best sounding sim out there. I built an interface so it connects via the 11 pin Leslie output on the Hammond. I used to have B3s,
> C3's and several 122 Leslies but with my current set up I don't really miss them.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:35 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
>
>
>
> How do you like the Hammond? I've heard some people aren't happy with the Leslie function. Some guys are using the Neoventilator. It sounds awesome. it's $400.00 bucks though.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece to route to half a dozen different modules and a Kawai M8000 controller at home but usually
> > these days I usually just take a Hammond XK-3c and Kurzweil K2000 to play out. You could control your Vintage module from
> > the laptop & keyboard you have. If the keyboard is usb only than a MIDI cable from a second usb port on the laptop would do it.
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> > Its an awesome piece too. I bet I could integrate it with my laptop/usb keyboard to expand things...
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got factory training at E-mu when they were built in a Victorian house in Santa Cruz. It was during the Emulator days. If you look at your
> > > Vintage module manual you will see it was written by Riley Smith a friend of mine since the 70's. Before that he worked at Sequential Circuits
> > > (where I also got factory trained). Those were fun times.....
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:44 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the Vintage keys module too. Have had it since it came out. I've used it with my Sonar setup but for live giging i am using an M-Audio Key Rig 49 which is not lots of useful. Not as much as my Roland D70 which has to be fixed.... Need more control points.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but there are a lot of "closet" sample users on this group. I have the M-tron and a couple of others but the only thing I will use live are
> > > > my E-mu Vintage Keys modules....great for King Crimson type grungy tron sounds....
> > > >
> > > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: john barrick <barrickjohn262@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 2:15 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Crap! I've got a VST!


  
    
                  
Nah, there are people here that talk about those and samples all the time.
I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.  I started out on the old group with the M-Tron software and I don't think anyone made fun of me too much...except for Frank.
jb


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, john.mcnamara65 <jfranmac@gmail.com> wrote:

 
  
    
                  
If I mention VST's in this group, will that serve to get me excommunicated?

>
> All but the latest rev crashes and is unstable.  It is a memory hog too even
> on my maxed out Mac Pros.
> 
> Upside, you don't have worry about blowing your speakers.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...>* wrote:
> >
> > >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> >
> > I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How is
> > that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination don't
> > you think? ;)
> >
> >  
> >
>

>
> I'm on a PC also.
> jb
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...>wrote:
> 
> > It's nice.  Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > works great.  The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials and
> > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and it's
> > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface.  Keep in mind
> > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > jb
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...>* wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> >>
> >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How is
> >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination don't
> >> you think? ;)
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
>

>
> I'm on a PC also.
> jb
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...<mailto:barrickjohn262@...>>wrote:
>
> > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials and
> > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and it's
> > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in mind
> > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > jb
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@...<mailto:rvolpfox@...>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...<mailto:barrickjohn262@...>>* wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> >>
> >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How is
> >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination don't
> >> you think? ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

>
> John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.  Although I don't like most of their stuff, the Behringer BCR2000 USB Midi Controller <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john.mcnamara65
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> 
> 
> 
> My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many controls.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, john barrick <barrickjohn262@<mailto:barrickjohn262@>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm on a PC also.
> > jb
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@<mailto:barrickjohn262@>>wrote:
> >
> > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials and
> > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and it's
> > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in mind
> > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > jb
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@<mailto:rvolpfox@>> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@<mailto:barrickjohn262@>>* wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > >>
> > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How is
> > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination don't
> > >> you think? ;)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Gary, that looks about perfect.  That would work really well and make the
> VST much more "playable".  The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> requires interaction with the computer interface.
> jb
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > Midi Controller
> > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> >
> > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > controls.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > jb
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > and
> > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > it's
> > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > mind
> > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > jb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > is
> > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > don't
> > > >> you think? ;)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

>
> 
> I would think you could automate or 
> "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, that looks about perfect.  That would work really well and make the
> > VST much more "playable".  The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > jb
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > > Midi Controller
> > > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > >
> > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > > controls.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > jb
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > > and
> > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > > it's
> > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > > mind
> > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > jb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > > is
> > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > > don't
> > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

>
> 
> I would think you could automate or 
> "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, that looks about perfect.  That would work really well and make the
> > VST much more "playable".  The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > jb
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > > Midi Controller
> > > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > >
> > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > > controls.
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > jb
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > > and
> > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > > it's
> > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > > mind
> > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > jb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > > is
> > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > > don't
> > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
> yep, there's a group for that.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I would think you could automate or 
> > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well and make the
> > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > > jb
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > > > Midi Controller
> > > > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > > >
> > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > > > controls.
> > > >
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > > jb
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > > > and
> > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > > > it's
> > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > > > mind
> > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > > jb
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > > > is
> > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > > > don't
> > > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
>

>
> Just want to say that I haven't got a clue what you are all rambling on about but my Virginia Creeper is doing well this year.
> 
> M
> 
> mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> 
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
> > yep, there's a group for that.
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I would think you could automate or 
> > > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> > > 
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well and make the
> > > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> > > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> > > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > > > jb
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > > > > Midi Controller
> > > > > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > > > >
> > > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > > > > controls.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > > > jb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > > > > mind
> > > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > > > jb
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

>
> Geez, Martin, what are you, some kind of disciple of analogue?
> jb
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Just want to say that I haven't got a clue what you are all rambling on
> > about but my Virginia Creeper is doing well this year.
> >
> > M
> >
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/>
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
> > yep, there's a group for that.
> >
> > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I would think you could automate or
> > > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> > >
> > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well and make
> > the
> > > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog Modular is
> > that
> > > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge,
> > still
> > > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > > > jb
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST
> > control.
> > > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000
> > USB
> > > > > Midi Controller
> > > > > <<http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with
> > the MIDI
> > > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > > > *To:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't
> > many
> > > > > controls.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > > > jb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@
> > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49
> > and it
> > > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many
> > dials
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls
> > and
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface.
> > Keep in
> > > > > mind
> > > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > > > jb
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my
> > MacPro. How
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good
> > combination
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >   
> >
>

>
> He just wants you to buy more tape sets.  Say, Tuned Cats, Popup Toasters of
> the Elite, and the Juice Harp/Comb and Tissue Paper split.
> jb
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM, john.mcnamara65 <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > He's valiantly trying to pull us back to reality.
> >
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Geez, Martin, what are you, some kind of disciple of analogue?
> > > jb
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just want to say that I haven't got a clue what you are all rambling on
> > > > about but my Virginia Creeper is doing well this year.
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > > mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/>
> > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
> > > > yep, there's a group for that.
> > > >
> > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I would think you could automate or
> > > > > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well and
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog Modular is
> > > > that
> > > > > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my
> > knowledge,
> > > > still
> > > > > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > > > > > jb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST
> > > > control.
> > > > > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer*
> > BCR2000
> > > > USB
> > > > > > > Midi Controller
> > > > > > > <<
> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA
> > >
> > > >
> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and
> > with
> > > > the MIDI
> > > > > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *From:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > > > <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > > > > > *To:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there
> > aren't
> > > > many
> > > > > > > controls.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > > > > > jb
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board
> > 49
> > > > and it
> > > > > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as
> > many
> > > > dials
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of
> > controls
> > > > and
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface.
> > > > Keep in
> > > > > > > mind
> > > > > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > > > > > jb
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my
> > > > MacPro. How
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good
> > > > combination
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

> alas. i would buy more tape sets if i had something to put them into.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick
> <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
>>
>> He just wants you to buy more tape sets.  Say, Tuned Cats, Popup
>> Toasters of
>> the Elite, and the Juice Harp/Comb and Tissue Paper split.
>> jb
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM, john.mcnamara65 <jfranmac@...> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > He's valiantly trying to pull us back to reality.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick
>> <barrickjohn262@>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Geez, Martin, what are you, some kind of disciple of analogue?
>> > > jb
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Just want to say that I haven't got a clue what you are all
>> rambling on
>> > > > about but my Virginia Creeper is doing well this year.
>> > > >
>> > > > M
>> > > >
>> > > > mellotronics.co.uk
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/>
>> > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
>> > > > yep, there's a group for that.
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would think you could automate or
>> > > > > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well
>> and
>> > make
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog
>> Modular is
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my
>> > knowledge,
>> > > > still
>> > > > > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
>> > > > > > jb
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional
>> VST
>> > > > control.
>> > > > > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer*
>> > BCR2000
>> > > > USB
>> > > > > > > Midi Controller
>> > > > > > > <<
>> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points
>> and
>> > with
>> > > > the MIDI
>> > > > > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > *From:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> > > > > > > <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
>> > > > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
>> > > > > > > *To:* <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there
>> > aren't
>> > > > many
>> > > > > > > controls.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In <newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I'm on a PC also.
>> > > > > > > > jb
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick
>> <barrickjohn262@
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU
>> X-Board
>> > 49
>> > > > and it
>> > > > > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you
>> get as
>> > many
>> > > > dials
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of
>> > controls
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer
>> interface.
>> > > > Keep in
>> > > > > > > mind
>> > > > > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
>> > > > > > > > > jb
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman
>> <rvolpfox@>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>*
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on
>> my
>> > > > MacPro. How
>> > > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder
>> CD...good
>> > > > combination
>> > > > > > > don't
>> > > > > > > > >> you think? ;)
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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>

  From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:06 AM
  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?


  You'll be lucky.



  "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms,…by ringing those bells….

  and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making 

  sure, as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to

  be secure and we were going to be free.”





  __

>
> "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms,…by ringing those bells….
> 
> and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making 
> 
> sure, as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to
> 
> be secure and we were going to be free.”
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> __
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: john barrick 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?


    
  Sorry, Andy, but no, we're still trying to figure it out also.

  jb


  On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

      
     


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
      To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:06 AM
      Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?


      "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms,…by ringing those bells….

      and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making 

      sure, as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to

      be secure and we were going to be free.”





      __

From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM


  





--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."
I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. 
John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in 2004, which was...
To the citizens of the United States of America ,

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. 

Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next. 

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. 

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. 

2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix "-ise." 

3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation. 

4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication. 

5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above). 

7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance Day." 

8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun. 

9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. 

10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 

11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. 

12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it. 

13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar. 

14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers. 

15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion. 

16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater. 

17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies). 

18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. 

19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad for years. 

20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax collector') from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due, backdated to 1776. 

Thank you for your co-operation. 

John Cleese

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tron400
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:16 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?



Legs...don't forget the legs.

Bernie #500 NRA Annual Member and also a weapons collector [http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif]

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>, "Tony" <atm655@...<mailto:atm655@...>> wrote:
>
> And it didn't work anyways!
> "with arms we a citizens, without we are subjects"
> Tony #510 NRA Patron Member and weapons collector
>
,___

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:00 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain
this to me?

 

  

Tony & Bernie.....I'm with you!  

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tron400
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:16 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to
me?

 

  

Legs...don't forget the legs.

Bernie #500 NRA Annual Member and also a weapons collector
:D<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif> 

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tony" <atm655@...> wrote:
>
> And it didn't work anyways!
> "with arms we a citizens, without we are subjects"
> Tony #510 NRA Patron Member and weapons collector
>

,___

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Hewitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:24 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...<mailto:jandjstrz@...>> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. [http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/18.gif]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Doncourt" <tomdcour@amnh.org> 
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:24:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me? 






You know what? I'm sick of politics. I love music and all the gear and I respect all your opinions on those subjects...I hope you are all having happy lives and I commiserate with any of you who are having troubles with your girlfriends. If I am ever trapped in a fire I don't care if the person who helps me out is a Republican or Democrat . So I feel bad about getting angry at you guys. I won't tire any of you with my ill informed opinions on the state of the world. Please return the favor. 


Sincerely, 
Tom 


On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Gary Brumm wrote: 









The British “authorities” were simply kicked out of a country where they were not wanted…it’s happened to them many times before as they 

tried to grab territory beyond their borders. Terrorists are the sick fscks that strap bombs to themselves and kill women and children without 

a second thought. 






From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newme llotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Hewitt 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:24 AM 
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me? 









--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com , "Ms. Janet Strauss" < jandjstrz@... > wrote: 

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free." 

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. :))

> > 
> > tried to grab territory beyond their borders.  Terrorists are the sick fscks that strap bombs to themselves and kill women and children without
> > 
> > a second thought. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newme llotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Hewitt
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:24 AM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@> wrote:
> > 
> > "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."
> > 
> > I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

>
> Just want to say that I haven't got a clue what you are all rambling on about but my Virginia Creeper is doing well this year.
> 
> M
> 
> mellotronics.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:03, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@...> wrote:
> 
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/
> > yep, there's a group for that.
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "john.mcnamara65" <jfranmac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I would think you could automate or 
> > > "learn" at least some common patch cord schemes..no?
> > > 
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary, that looks about perfect. That would work really well and make the
> > > > VST much more "playable". The only problem with the Moog Modular is that
> > > > you still have to run patch cords, which, to the best of my knowledge, still
> > > > requires interaction with the computer interface.
> > > > jb
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John, you might want to try a control surface for additional VST control.
> > > > > Although I don't like most of their stuff, the *Behringer* BCR2000 USB
> > > > > Midi Controller
> > > > > <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=behringer+control+surface&cp=23&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1400&bih=929&wrapid=tljp1307388660438044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7392379891311119034&sa=X&ei=DyvtTZOVH-bYiAKqg_DgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CG4Q8wIwBA>
> > > > >
> > > > > is an inexpensive way to get a lot of MIDI control points and with the MIDI
> > > > > "learn" incorporated in many VSTs is very easy to set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *john.mcnamara65
> > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
> > > > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Crap! I've got a VST!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that i'm using an M Audio Keyrig 49 and there aren't many
> > > > > controls.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm on a PC also.
> > > > > > jb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's nice. Quite controllable. I run it with an EMU X-Board 49 and it
> > > > > > > works great. The only thing I'd recommend is that you get as many dials
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > sliders as you can for assignaibles - there's a TON of controls and
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > nice to not always have to go back to the computer interface. Keep in
> > > > > mind
> > > > > > > that I've never played with the real thing.
> > > > > > > jb
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --- On *Sun, 6/5/11, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>* wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >I've got the Arturia Moog Modular here somewhere.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I've been thinking of trying that out myself someday on my MacPro. How
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >> that working out for you? I also have the Pinder CD...good combination
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > >> you think? ;)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:25 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?



You know what? I'm sick of politics. I love music and all the gear and I respect all your opinions on those subjects...I hope you are all having happy lives and I commiserate with any of you who are having troubles with your girlfriends. If I am ever trapped in a fire I don't care if the person who helps me out is a Republican or Democrat . So I feel bad about getting angry at you guys. I won't tire any of you with my ill informed opinions on the state of the world. Please return the favor.

Sincerely,
Tom
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:




The British "authorities" were simply kicked out of a country where they were not wanted...it's happened to them many times before as they
tried to grab territory beyond their borders.  Terrorists are the sick fscks that strap bombs to themselves and kill women and children without
a second thought.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newme llotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Hewitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:24 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...<mailto:jandjstrz@...>> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. [http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/18.gif]

>
> You know what? I'm sick of politics. I love music and all the gear and I respect all your opinions on those subjects...I hope you are all having happy lives and I commiserate with any of you who are having troubles with your girlfriends. If I am ever trapped in a fire I don't care if the person who helps me out is a Republican or Democrat . So I feel bad about getting angry at you guys. I won't tire any of you with my ill informed opinions on the state of the world. Please return the favor.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tom
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
>
> >
> > The British "authorities" were simply kicked out of a country where they were not wanted...it's happened to them many times before as they
> >
> > tried to grab territory beyond their borders. Terrorists are the sick fscks that strap bombs to themselves and kill women and children without
> >
> > a second thought.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newme llotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:llotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Nick Hewitt
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:24 AM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@> wrote:
> >
> > "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."
> >
> > I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities.
> >
> >
> >
>

From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 1:24 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      You know what? I'm sick of politics. I love music and all the gear and I respect all your opinions on those subjects...I hope you are all having happy lives and I commiserate with any of you who are having troubles with your girlfriends. If I am ever trapped in a fire I don't care if the person who helps me out is a Republican or Democrat . So I feel bad about getting angry at you guys. I won't tire any of you with my ill informed opinions on the state of the world. Please return the favor.  
Sincerely,Tom

\ufffd

I try to restrain the uncontrollable cursing rage I feel when I think of the sheer dumbfuckery running rampant in this country.

>
> That is very true, Frank.  There's more than a few politicians that are way
> overdue for an appointment in the woodshed.
> jb
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, <lsf5275@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >  We share many political views and also frequently differ. Here we agree
> > completely because dumbfuckery is not limited to either party.
> >
> >  In a message dated 6/7/2011 3:18:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > barrickjohn262@... writes:
> >
> > I try to restrain the uncontrollable cursing rage I feel when I think of
> > the sheer dumbfuckery running rampant in this country.
> >
> >  
> >
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:26 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?



On 07/06/2011 20:18, john barrick wrote:

I try to restrain the uncontrollable cursing rage I feel when I think of the sheer dumbfuckery running rampant in this country.

'This country'?

>
> That is very true, Frank. There's more than a few politicians that are way
> overdue for an appointment in the woodshed.
> jb
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, <lsf5275@...<mailto:lsf5275@...>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > We share many political views and also frequently differ. Here we agree
> > completely because dumbfuckery is not limited to either party.
> >
> > In a message dated 6/7/2011 3:18:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > barrickjohn262@... writes:
> >
> > I try to restrain the uncontrollable cursing rage I feel when I think of
> > the sheer dumbfuckery running rampant in this country.
> >
> >
> >
>

From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM


  





OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as “out to lunch”.
 
 



From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
 
  








Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!  Mrs. Palin was off her rocker!  I'm off to lunch!

 

  -Bruce D.



--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:


From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM

  




--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. 

John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in 2004, which was...
To the citizens of the United States of America ,

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. 

Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next. 

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. 

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. 

2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix "-ise." 

3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation. 

4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication. 

5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above). 

7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance Day." 

8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun. 

9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. 

10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 

11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. 

12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it. 

13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar. 

14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers. 

15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion. 

16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater. 

17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies). 

18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. 

19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad for years. 

20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax collector') from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due, backdated to 1776. 

Thank you for your co-operation. 

John Cleese

From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:56 PM


  








I'm back now...I think.
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:


From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM


  



OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as “out to lunch”.
 
 



From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
 
  








Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!  Mrs. Palin was off her rocker!  I'm off to lunch!


 


  -Bruce D.




--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:


From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM 

  




--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. 

John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in 2004, which was...
To the citizens of the United States of America ,

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. 

Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next. 

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. 

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. 

2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix "-ise." 

3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation. 

4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication. 

5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above). 

7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance Day." 

8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun. 

9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. 

10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 

11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. 

12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it. 

13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar. 

14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers. 

15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion. 

16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater. 

17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies). 

18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. 

19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad for years. 

20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax collector') from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due, backdated to 1776. 

Thank you for your co-operation. 

John Cleese

On 6/7/2011 4:08 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:
>
>    Okay, Mr. Cleese missed one.  Every American should purchase a 
> Mellotron M5000, complete with rhythms/fills on left keyboard, and 
> learn to play "The Star Spangled Banner" or "God Save the Queen" using 
> "Twist in C".
>    My politics for the day.
>   -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Bruce Daily /<pocotron@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
>     Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone
>     explain this to me?
>     To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:56 PM
>
>     I'm back now...I think.
>       -Bruce D.
>
>
>     --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Gary Brumm /<gabru@comsec.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
>         Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone
>         explain this to me?
>         To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com"
>         <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>         Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM
>
>         OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as \u201cout to lunch\u201d.
>
>     *From:*newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Daily
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
>     *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone
>     explain this to me?
>
>     Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!  Mrs. Palin was off her
>     rocker!  I'm off to lunch!
>
>       -Bruce D.
>
>
>
>     --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt /<nickhewitt235@btinternet.com
>     <http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>>/*
>     wrote:
>
>
>         From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com
>         <http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>>
>         Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone
>         explain this to me?
>         To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>         Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM
>
>
>         --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>,
>         "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...
>         <http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jandjstrz@...>>
>         wrote:
>
>         "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin'
>         away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's
>         ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and
>         bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town
>         to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to
>         be secure and we were going to be free."
>
>         I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during
>         that period of time when the American settlers turned
>         terrorist against the democratically elected British
>         authorities. :))
>
>         John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was
>         re-elected in 2004, which was...
>
>         To the citizens of the United States of America ,
>
>         In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the
>         USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give
>         notice of the revocation of your independence, effective
>         immediately.
>
>         Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume
>         monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other
>         territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from
>         Monday next.
>
>         Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor
>         for America without the need for further elections. Congress
>         and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be
>         circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
>
>         To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the
>         following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
>
>         1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English
>         Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the
>         pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly
>         you have been pronouncing it.
>
>         2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as
>         'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you
>         will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the
>         letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix
>         "-ise."
>
>         3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced
>         'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg'
>         if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation.
>
>         4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to
>         acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same
>         twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as
>         "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient
>         form of communication.
>
>         5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let
>         Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft
>         spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the
>         reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
>
>         6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save
>         The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1
>         (see above).
>
>         7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
>         November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be
>         celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance
>         Day."
>
>         8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using
>         guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many
>         lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to
>         be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If
>         you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing
>         someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up
>         enough to handle a gun.
>
>         9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed
>         to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable
>         peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a
>         vegetable peeler in public.
>
>         10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and
>         this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you
>         will understand what we mean.
>
>         11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and
>         you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At
>         the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the
>         benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication
>         will help you understand the British sense of humour.
>
>         12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you
>         have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get
>         used to it.
>
>         13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call
>         French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist
>         on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real
>         chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with
>         mayonnaise but with vinegar.
>
>         14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more
>         aggressive with customers.
>
>         15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not
>         actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter
>         will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and
>         accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American
>         brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions,"
>         so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
>
>         16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English
>         actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast
>         English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie
>         MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a
>         Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed
>         with a cheese grater.
>
>         17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only
>         one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you
>         brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby
>         (which has some similarities to American "football", but does
>         not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or
>         wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies).
>
>         18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not
>         reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a
>         game which is not played outside America . Since only 2.1% of
>         you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your
>         error is understandable.
>
>         19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad
>         for years.
>
>         20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax
>         collector') from Her Majesty's Government will be with you
>         shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due, backdated
>         to 1776.
>
>         Thank you for your co-operation.
>
>         John Cleese
>
>

From: Bruce Daily
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:56 PM

\ufffd

I'm back now...I think.

\ufffd

\ufffd -Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Gary Brumm wrote:

From: Gary Brumm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM

\ufffd

OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as \ufffdout to lunch\ufffd.

\ufffd

\ufffd

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?

\ufffd

\ufffd

Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!\ufffd Mrs. Palin was off her rocker!\ufffd I'm off to lunch!

\ufffd

\ufffd -Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM

\ufffd

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities.

John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in 2004, which was...

To the citizens of the United States of America ,

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.

Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next.

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.

2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix "-ise."

3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation.

4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication.

5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above).

7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance Day."

8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it.

13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.

14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time, (Message over 64 KB, truncated)

>
> I can see I've failed miserably here...wait, to the ocean, right?
> 
> jb
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Actually, there is coastline - and maybe they can gather all the
> > continent's 'trons, cut themselves loose and drift away....and bring their
> > ale to me.
> >
> >
> > On 6/7/2011 4:41 PM, john barrick wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I think, as he's landlocked, he's gotta go along with whatever the
> > continent decides.
> > jb
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Doesn't our official Belgian on the list have a say in this??
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/7/2011 4:08 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>       Okay, Mr. Cleese missed one.  Every American should purchase a
> >> Mellotron M5000, complete with rhythms/fills on left keyboard, and learn to
> >> play "The Star Spangled Banner" or "God Save the Queen" using "Twist in C".
> >>    My politics for the day.
> >>
> >>   -Bruce D.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...><pocotron@...>
> >> * wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> <pocotron@...>
> >> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this
> >> to me?
> >> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:56 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>    I'm back now...I think.
> >>
> >>   -Bruce D.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> <gabru@...>*wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Gary Brumm <gabru@...> <gabru@...>
> >> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this
> >> to me?
> >> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com"<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as "out to lunch".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [
> >> mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Bruce Daily
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
> >> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain
> >> this to me?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!  Mrs. Palin was off her rocker!  I'm
> >> off to lunch!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   -Bruce D.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@...<http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nickhewitt235@...>
> >> >* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@...<http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nickhewitt235@...>
> >> >
> >> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to
> >> me?
> >> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>,
> >> "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@<http://us.mc1259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jandjstrz@>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> "He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our
> >> arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse
> >> through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's
> >> riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we
> >> were going to be secure and we were going to be free."
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period
> >> of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the
> >> democratically elected British authorities. [image: :))]
> >>
> >> John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in
> >> 2004, which was...
> >>
> >> To the citizens of the United States of America ,
> >>
> >> In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and
> >> thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the
> >> revocation of your independence, effective immediately.
> >>
> >> Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties
> >> over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which
> >> she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next.
> >>
> >> Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America
> >> without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be
> >> disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether
> >> any of you noticed.
> >>
> >> To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following
> >> rules are introduced with immediate effect:
> >>
> >> 1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then
> >> look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed
> >> at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
> >>
> >> 2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour',
> >> 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut'
> >> without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by
> >> the suffix "-ise."
> >>
> >> 3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may
> >> elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope
> >> with the correct pronunciation.
> >>
> >> 4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable
> >> levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words
> >> interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is
> >> unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication.
> >>
> >> 5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this
> >> on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account
> >> of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
> >>
> >> 6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
> >> but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above).
> >>
> >> 7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will
> >> be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be
> >> called "Come-Uppance Day."
> >>
> >> 8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers
> >> or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows
> >> that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled
> >> by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing
> >> someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle
> >> a gun.
> >>
> >> 9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or
> >> carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be
> >> required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
> >>
> >> 10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for
> >> your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we
> >> mean.
> >>
> >> 11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will
> >> start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will
> >> go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both
> >> roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of
> >> humour.
> >>
> >> 12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been
> >> calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it.
> >>
> >> 13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries
> >> are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are
> >> properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and
> >> dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.
> >>
> >> 14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with
> >> customers.
> >>
> >> 15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually
> >> beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as
> >> "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred
> >> to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's
> >> Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
> >>
> >> 16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good
> >> guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English
> >> characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four
> >> Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed
> >> with a cheese grater.
> >>
> >> 17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of
> >> football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time,
> >> will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American
> >> "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or
> >> wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies).
> >>
> >> 18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host
> >> an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside
> >> America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your
> >> borders, your error is understandable.
> >>
> >> 19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad for years.
> >>
> >> 20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax collector')
> >> from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the
> >> acquisition of all monies due, backdated to 1776.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your co-operation.
> >>
> >> John Cleese
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >    
> >
>

> > the sheer dumbfuckery running rampant  in this country.
> >
> > 
>  >
>

From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 5:08 PM


  








   Okay, Mr. Cleese missed one.  Every American should purchase a Mellotron M5000, complete with rhythms/fills on left keyboard, and learn to play "The Star Spangled Banner" or "God Save the Queen" using "Twist in C".
   My politics for the day.
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:56 PM


  






I'm back now...I think.
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:


From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 11:01 AM


  



OK Bruce. you are officially recognized as “out to lunch”.
 
 





From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:46 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?

  
  








Mr. Cleese was generally on the mark!  Mrs. Palin was off her rocker!  I'm off to lunch!



 



  -Bruce D.





--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:


From: Nick Hewitt <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Off topic - Can someone explain this to me?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:24 AM 

  




--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Janet Strauss" <jandjstrz@...> wrote:

"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, by ringing those bells, and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, by making sure, as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

I'm guessing that it's about Paul Revere's horse ride, during that period of time when the American settlers turned terrorist against the democratically elected British authorities. 

John Cleese said something similar when George Dubya was re-elected in 2004, which was...
To the citizens of the United States of America ,

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA , and thus to adequately govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. 

Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (except Kansas , which she doesn't fancy) as from Monday next. 

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. 

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. 

2. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', `harbour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "-ize" will be replaced by the suffix "-ise." 

3. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' - you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with the correct pronunciation. 

4. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is unacceptable and is an inefficient form of communication. 

5. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know this on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

6. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task number 1 (see above). 

7. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England . It will be called "Come-Uppance Day." 

8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun. 

9. Following on from 8) above, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. 

10. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 

11. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. 

12. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") at roughly $6 per US gallon. Get used to it. 

13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar. 

14. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers. 

15. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Excretions," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion. 

16. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater. 

17. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of football - you call it "soccer". Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body Armour like a bunch of nancies). 

18. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. 

19. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad for years. 

20. An internal revenue agent (what is correctly called a `tax collector') from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due, backdated to 1776. 

Thank you for your co-operation. 

John Cleese