The Mellotron Group

I hear Harley Davidson is going to make a bicycle with speakers on it that  
play back the sounds of the big V-Twin when you pedal it around. It will 
have  the Harley Davidson Logo on it and since it still sounds just like the 
big bike  it must be a motorcycle.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2011 1:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
hessel@soundscape.nl writes:

 
 
 
It seems to me that, for any device claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON  
sounds onboard, capturing the MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing the  
characteristic replay mechanism is very important and indeed  what many  
buyers would expect to hear from this device







Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <_charel196@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:charel196@yahoo.com) > het volgende  geschreven:





 
not a valid comparison...a guitar relies on the wood and strings for  
sound. The Mellotron doesn't rely on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass tron  
sound different from the wooden ones?
The M4000D is a DIGITAL  MELLOTRON....not a tape playback Mellotron...but 
is entitled to the name  nonetheless IMO since it is an offspring of the line 
of instruments. As far  as tuning & denoising etc. ruining or changing the 
sound....aren't these  the very things people have bitched about for 
decades. Now someone fixes  them and you bitch about that! (shakes head....walking  
away....smiling)
Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of  the sounds as an 
option.And if you can detect the missing bits of analog  tape sound in the 
digital version you must have super hearing.
Yeah...the  Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD sounds as 
accurate as I  need. I even have samples from my old 400 in it (hissy & out of 
tune)  every note sampled full length, non looped.

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> Charles,
> 
> Suppose you  make a wooden thing with a neck and buttons on it instead of 
>  strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons to get 
the  
> sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a guitar, but is it a guitar?  No. 
A 
> Mellotron or Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just  because you 
make 
> something that kinda looks like one and plays  digital representations of 
the 
> original tape samples doesn't make  them one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated  1/22/2011 8:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> charel196@...  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I just don't get all  this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the digital 
unit 
> is a logical  progression from tape replay and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin 
would 
>  have moved into this area if he were alive now. The whole point was 
>  playing instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology (which 
was  the 
> only method available) 
> If all sounds are from original  tapes and only last 8 seconds and are 
the 
> best digital  representations that can be done, personally to me it's a 
new 
>  Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what that it 
doesn't  
> use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and processing I imagine you  can 
get 
> near 1000% close.
> Heck I have used samples on my  albums (from my EMU E4K, EMAX 1, and 
> CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the  same songs I used my real M400 (when I 
had it) and 
> I defy anyone to  tell me which is which. And the E4K was using the 
Pinder 
> CD. The  M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the Pinder CD in 
quality. 
>  I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback technology as the  
> only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or "Chamberlin". The  4000D is 
just a 
> new and different model in the family tree....made  by the people who own 
> the name and  masters.
>