Digital BW, The Print

Last night I had quite a battle with my new Epson 1430, which I am using for color printing. The old 1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine. 

It seems the black ink head was quite clogged and I emptied a full set of cartridges (MIS, not Epson!) doing head cleanings before I finally got a good nozzle check. 

This got me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid, but which one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly as expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of ammonia and alcohol. 

I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution. Any thoughts as to how this would work as a head cleaning solution? Should I add a little ammonia and/or isopropyl alcohol?

I'm sure that everyone has his/her own favorite, mine is a 50/50 mix of
clear ammonia and water. I've used that quite successfully in a succession
of 1200, 1280, 1400 and now my 1430 either as an underhead soak or in
cartridges.

 

Note that these are all dye ink printers, I have no experience with
pigmented inks.

 

HTH,

Tom 

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Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 1430 Cleaning Solution

 

  

Last night I had quite a battle with my new Epson 1430, which I am using for
color printing. The old 1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine. 

It seems the black ink head was quite clogged and I emptied a full set of
cartridges (MIS, not Epson!) doing head cleanings before I finally got a
good nozzle check. 

This got me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid, but
which one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly as
expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of
ammonia and alcohol. 

I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution. Any thoughts as to how
this would work as a head cleaning solution? Should I add a little ammonia
and/or isopropyl alcohol?





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When I place an order with MIS I always order a bottle of cleaning solution
also.  Simple.  And important.  Not that expensive.  Sure saves a lot
of hassle (and ink waste).
-Jim Coffee-

On 30 April 2013 07:21, remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Last night I had quite a battle with my new Epson 1430, which I am using
> for color printing. The old 1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine.
>
> It seems the black ink head was quite clogged and I emptied a full set of
> cartridges (MIS, not Epson!) doing head cleanings before I finally got a
> good nozzle check.
>
> This got me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid,
> but which one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly
> as expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of
> ammonia and alcohol.
>
> I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution. Any thoughts as to how
> this would work as a head cleaning solution? Should I add a little ammonia
> and/or isopropyl alcohol?
>
>  
>


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Jus my 2c: A few months ago, I decided to keep my 1400 ON, and since
then I did not have clogging any more. Completely finished... Since I
have a CISS, I find this much better than cleaning! 

Sylvain. 

Le
2013-04-30 16:46, Jim Coffee a écrit : 

> When I place an order with
MIS I always order a bottle of cleaning solution
> also. Simple. And
important. Not that expensive. Sure saves a lot
> of hassle (and ink
waste).
> -Jim Coffee-
> 
> On 30 April 2013 07:21, remononaz1
<homershannon@...> wrote:
> 
>> ** Last night I had quite a battle
with my new Epson 1430, which I am using for color printing. The old
1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine. It seems the black ink head was
quite clogged and I emptied a full set of cartridges (MIS, not Epson!)
doing head cleanings before I finally got a good nozzle check. This got
me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid, but which
one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly as
expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of
ammonia and alcohol. I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution.
Any thoughts as to how this would work as a head cleaning solution?
Should I add a little ammonia and/or isopropyl alcohol?
> [Non-text
portions of this message have been removed]
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Anyone have an opinion on the Cone ColorPro pigment inks  vs the MIS K4 color inks in bulk, for a CIS in a 1430?  A concern is avoiding clogging.  Both tout their technology; MIS is almost 1/3 the price.  
thanks,

James Irelan

Something like this happened to me with a 1400, turned out to be old 
ink!! I put fresh ink in to the printer and everything was fine!!

Hope this helps

Cheers

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On 4/30/2013 4:46 PM, Jim Coffee wrote:
> When I place an order with MIS I always order a bottle of cleaning solution
> also.  Simple.  And important.  Not that expensive.  Sure saves a lot
> of hassle (and ink waste).
> -Jim Coffee-
>
> On 30 April 2013 07:21, remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Last night I had quite a battle with my new Epson 1430, which I am using
>> for color printing. The old 1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine.
>>
>> It seems the black ink head was quite clogged and I emptied a full set of
>> cartridges (MIS, not Epson!) doing head cleanings before I finally got a
>> good nozzle check.
>>
>> This got me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid,
>> but which one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly
>> as expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of
>> ammonia and alcohol.
>>
>> I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution. Any thoughts as to how
>> this would work as a head cleaning solution? Should I add a little ammonia
>> and/or isopropyl alcohol?
>>
>>   
>>
>
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I looked at the ingredients in the PK-Clearbase and it sure looks like it would make a good cleaner. What's odd in this situation is that the 1430 is quite new. It was printing fine about four days ago and I have been leaving it on. I also leave my 1400 on and it rarely clogs, though it is running UT-14 which is pretty clog-free. 

I don't normally have many clogging issues and this whole episode was a bit of an anomaly, but then the 1430 has been a mis-adventure anyway. If I had it to do over again, I'd pick up a used 1400, even if it didn't come with a new set of Claria cartridges.

Jim,

Although I have an R1800, I too order the MIS Cleaning Fluid whenever I order MIS Eboni. I'm using Paul's 3MK setup, with Eboni in the two black and GLOP positions and MIS Cleaning Fluid in the five color positions. Lately I've had bad nozzle checks in the Cleaning Fluid positions but not in the Eboni positions, which seems strange to me. In addition, I've tried using a 50-50 mixture of ammoniated Windex and isopropyl alcohol for underhead cleaning and soaking the waste pad. Sometimes this clears up the clogs but it's only temporary. (I should mention that I tint the cleaning fluid with a very small amount of Eboni so I can view the patterns.)

I'm beginning to suspect the use of this cleaning fluid in the carts... Paul has suggested I use his C6b mixture of distilled water, glycerin, Photo-Flo and LFN. I've mixed some up and am about to try that.

Any thoughts why the color position nozzle checks are problematic but not the Eboni ink carts? Any other suggestions on what to use in the color position carts? 

TIA,

Paul

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jim Coffee <groups@...> wrote:

>
> When I place an order with MIS I always order a bottle of cleaning solution
> also.  Simple.  And important.  Not that expensive.  Sure saves a lot
> of hassle (and ink waste).
> -Jim Coffee-
> 
> On 30 April 2013 07:21, remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Last night I had quite a battle with my new Epson 1430, which I am using
> > for color printing. The old 1400 is now a dedicated B&W machine.
> >
> > It seems the black ink head was quite clogged and I emptied a full set of
> > cartridges (MIS, not Epson!) doing head cleanings before I finally got a
> > good nozzle check.
> >
> > This got me thinking that I really should get some head cleaning fluid,
> > but which one to buy? Most of the commercially available fluids are nearly
> > as expensive as ink - and are probably just distilled water and a bit of
> > ammonia and alcohol.
> >
> > I have nearly a pint of PR-Clearbase-PT solution. Any thoughts as to how
> > this would work as a head cleaning solution? Should I add a little ammonia
> > and/or isopropyl alcohol?
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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>