Digital BW, The Print

Guys, I'm new here.  I own an Epson R3000 and I print both color and B&W -- using only Epson inks (so far).  I print mostly with Epson and Ilford papers.

At a nearby photo store, I recently took an interest in the Moab Entrada papers (natural and bright white) after seeing a few print samples.  So, I ordered the Moab sample pack (includes a broad selection of their papers).  I'm working through that sample pack now.

What is general consensus about Moab papers these days, and Entrada in particular?  I know it's been around awhile, but I know little about the product and how it compares with other product.

Thank you for your input.

Robert Ades
Los Angeles

On 04/17/2013 07:10 AM, robertades wrote:
> Guys, I'm new here. I own an Epson R3000 and I print both color and B&W
> -- using only Epson inks (so far). I print mostly with Epson and Ilford
> papers.
>
> At a nearby photo store, I recently took an interest in the Moab Entrada
> papers (natural and bright white) after seeing a few print samples. So,
> I ordered the Moab sample pack (includes a broad selection of their
> papers). I'm working through that sample pack now.
>
> What is general consensus about Moab papers these days, and Entrada in
> particular? I know it's been around awhile, but I know little about the
> product and how it compares with other product.
>
> Thank you for your input.
>
> Robert Ades
> Los Angeles

Avoid the Bright White varieties of Endura, they yellow even in 
semi-dark storage in my experience. Aardenburg has not tested them and I 
know of no other tests either. The Natural versions are nice papers and 
their high, warm white, reflection is comparable to that of the Canson 
Natural papers.

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Entrada Natural is a very nice paper.  Warm, but in a subtle way.  There's
a tooth, but it's not obtrusive (though this is a matter of taste).

I use a lot of it for bookmaking.  It's one of the nicer (if not nicest)
double sided papers out there for this, and Moab is good about making cut
paper sizes in both grain long and grain short directions and noting what
the paper lot is on the box.  The downside is, at least for books where
paper use is heavy], it's relatively expensive.

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275 Park Ave #3G, Brooklyn, 11205
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Ernst Dinkla
<e.dinkla@...>wrote:

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>
>
> On 04/17/2013 07:10 AM, robertades wrote:
> > Guys, I'm new here. I own an Epson R3000 and I print both color and B&W
> > -- using only Epson inks (so far). I print mostly with Epson and Ilford
> > papers.
> >
> > At a nearby photo store, I recently took an interest in the Moab Entrada
> > papers (natural and bright white) after seeing a few print samples. So,
> > I ordered the Moab sample pack (includes a broad selection of their
> > papers). I'm working through that sample pack now.
> >
> > What is general consensus about Moab papers these days, and Entrada in
> > particular? I know it's been around awhile, but I know little about the
> > product and how it compares with other product.
> >
> > Thank you for your input.
> >
> > Robert Ades
> > Los Angeles
>
> Avoid the Bright White varieties of Endura, they yellow even in
> semi-dark storage in my experience. Aardenburg has not tested them and I
> know of no other tests either. The Natural versions are nice papers and
> their high, warm white, reflection is comparable to that of the Canson
> Natural papers.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla
>
> http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
> December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.
>  
>


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Robert, I've only used Entrada Natural.  Gave it up because of bad flaking problems...even after brushing and blowing.  The best workaround for me was to handle carefully and then spray the print after 48-hours or so.  I threw away far more prints than I kept.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertades" <robertadescpa@...> wrote:

>
> Guys, I'm new here.  I own an Epson R3000 and I print both color and B&W -- using only Epson inks (so far).  I print mostly with Epson and Ilford papers.
> 
> At a nearby photo store, I recently took an interest in the Moab Entrada papers (natural and bright white) after seeing a few print samples.  So, I ordered the Moab sample pack (includes a broad selection of their papers).  I'm working through that sample pack now.
> 
> What is general consensus about Moab papers these days, and Entrada in particular?  I know it's been around awhile, but I know little about the product and how it compares with other product.
> 
> Thank you for your input.
> 
> Robert Ades
> Los Angeles
>