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Re: BO settings for 220, my observation

2006-03-20 by how786

Good suggestion Roger.
 I forgot to mention that I did my early testing on Innova Smooth
Cotton which has a nice warm tonality to it. It reminds me of the Agfa
Multigrade paper I used in the wet darkroom back in my 'Dektol days'.
  <S>
 The results have been lovely.........
Howard

-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger"
<rsmith02@...> wrote:
>
> I'm also using the R220 and have done some BO onto letter paper.  I 
> tested 6 or 7 papers to see the differences.  I highly recommend 
> looking at the paper reviews on Clayton Jones' site and pay 
> particular attention to the whiteness of the paper and the warmth of 
> the ink.  
> 
> In my testing with MIS Eboni ink (seriously consider NOT using the 
> Epson ink) the BO prints only come out cool on very cool paper like 
> Moab Entrada Bright.  Try a warmer paper like Innova HW Cotton or 
> Red River Dourian Art with Eboni and you should be fine.  
> If you want a color inkset, try the MIS Pro color pigment inks.
> 
> Good luck,
> Roger
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mit Kase"
> > <mitkase@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Howard, could you expand on your methods a bit?  I too am using 
> a r220 
> > > and while the grain and gradations are amazing echoes of triX, 
> my 
> > > prints contain a light blue cast. this cast seems to vary 
> depending on 
> > > the density of the print.  i am absolutely befuddled: i keep 
> double 
> > > and triple checking my settings (from clayton's pages), and 
> giving it 
> > > a new try with a new picture, and so on; i've even scanned the 
> photos 
> > > in color just to double check myself--they are certainly blue in 
> the 
> > > scans. poking around in the epson supports pages, i found that 
> black 
> > > ink only mode still uses some color inks, which seems to be true 
> as my 
> > > color inks are diminishing without use.
> > > 
> > > i'm not sure where my problem is. i've tried gray-scale and 
> color 
> > > photos in the BO mode, tried letting the printer covert colors, 
> let 
> > > photoshop, or no conversion.  i'm using epson matte heavy and 
> the 
> > > original inks: is this black a true black?  i'd like to see a 
> neutral 
> > > colored print before investing any more in the printer, since i 
> bought 
> > > distinctly for the BO capability.
> > > 
> > > any help or ideas would be appreciated.
> > > thanks!!
> > > 
> > > m
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "how786" 
> > > <how786@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Well, I just setup my 220 for BO printing. (Eboni Black) 
> > > > 
> > > >   I have one feedback comment for you Clayton regarding the 
> > > settings.
> > > > With the Gamma set at 1.8 I could not get the prints dark 
> enough to
> > > > match my screen, even turning bightness down -20. This was 
> remedied 
> > > by
> > > > turning my gamma to 2.2. Brightness is now set at -7.
> > > > 
> > > >  The results are impressinve, I must say. I, too, am an old
> > > > photographer who simply adores TriX/HC-110. The look, to me, is
> > > > incomparable.
> > > > Anyway, that's just me.....many others do not like TX at all.
> > > > 
> > > >  I wanted to report what works for me because these settings 
> might
> > > > have to be changed for the 220 vs. the 200.
> > > > 
> > > >  I also want to thank you for the wonderful series of articles 
> on 
> > > your
> > > > website.
> > > > 
> > > >  Best Regards
> > > >  Howard
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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