Quoting each single word, Laurie...
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From: "laurie" <laurie@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Your opinion on CS60
> Musicians were given presets as were the synths........
> We were programmed to believe through trade mags (payed for by
> manufacturers) that we wanted an easy way out of patching our
> sounds.....Quickly...
> We needed the ability to change sounds back and forth throughout our
> songs to stay current....
> We needed an interface......MIDI
> Patch Chords became dials switches and faders....
> Dials switches and faders became presets...
> Presets couldn't move switches faders and dials .....so....
> Switches faders and dials reduced to become menu, knob and
> parameter......and included Edit Store and recall to birth "presets"
> Menu knob and parameter went to scroll menus and soft switches....and
> more presets.....
> "Two handed Polyphonic Aftertouch players" became "One handers with a
> D-beam/Joystick" as the alternative......Ten fingers become thousands
> with all the layering and sequencing.....
> This is what "WE Wanted".....That is why I am so much richer in my
> musicality.................poof.......huh.....
> Sorry ....Where was I.....
> What I meant to say was the Companies gave us some things but at our
> musical expense.....and they have benifited from this hugely.......
> I am no longer in their market target as a consumer, as I know what I
> want....
> They sell so much more to people who don't know what to look for that
> all good history gets lost in the cover-up......Check out the Yamaha
> site ...They have a glossary of terms.... try it next time you go on
> line.....try to find the mythical Polyphonic Aftertouch.......Little do
> they know they carry the Arturia CS80v which supports it.......
>
> Presets couldn't move switches and faders and dials...Jim Combs wrote:
>
> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Mert Topel" <mert@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you got any idea why the great CS60 was not popular ever?
> >
> > It seems to me that the CS-50, 60, and 80 all suffered from somewhat
> > being the last of their kind. They all fell in that timeframe of
> > post-minimoog, relatively non-programmable, cheaper analog synths and
> > right on the cusp of polyphonic, digital, programmable, networkable
> > sampler/synths (both cheap and expensive).
> >
> > I think the Moogs & ARPs of the world were failing, the Rolands and
> > Korgs and Sequential Circuits were rising (with MIDI), Synclaviers and
> >
> > Fairlights were blowing everyone's minds. Yamaha was too outside to
> > compete in that marketplace.
> >
> > I never even saw a CS-series synth until 1983, a CS-80 in a famous
> > disco producer's studio in NYC. They weren't in the music stores I
> > visited in the mid-late-'70s. So maybe bad distribution too.
> >
> > My CS-50 was a music store demo that was never sold, taken by the
> > music store owner's daughter from Colorado to Kansas City, stored and
> > eventually bought by a local collector for the price of a gas bill,
> > stored, and bought by me when he needed some cash. It looked like it
> > had just come out of the music store.
> >
> > It blows my mind that this beautiful and beautiful sounding synth had
> > to travel that path into my hands, but I question why someone else had
> >
> > not valued it's sound and appeal up until I got it?
> >
> > Would I have preferred the CS-50 to my Juno-6 back in '82? Doubt it.
> > Would I trade the CS-50 before trading my Juno-6 today? No way. It's
> > priceless and so individual and so special.
> >
> > I just recorded a piece that used a CS-80 patch on a Roland JD-800 and
> >
> > I overlayed a comparible CS-50 patch on top of it. The CS has a growl
> > and edge to the sound whereas the JD patch was smooth and compressed.
> > The CS just wants to dominate the soundspace. Who needs chords when a
> > couple of notes on a CS fills things up?
> >
> > -Jim
> > www.touchxtone.com
> > www.myspace.com/jimcombs
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