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Subject: Re: R: Re: Anybody??Re: [yamahacs80] CS80 restoration problems

From: "Max Fazio" <faxiomas@...>
Date: 2006-03-14

Hi Laurie!!
> as far as inividual velocity on certain keys, the contacts at the back
> end of the key in question should be peaked at under the little white
> cover to see if the contacts touch in the same order as the working
> keys

OK, I get it...

....part 2 my bad on the ep if it is channel 1...directly under it
> in channel 2 is bass possibly????

Yes, right!

have
> a 0 sustain level in the envelope making me think on that one card the
> decays are set to quick resulting in the need for the velocity amp to
> kick in so you can hear it

You mean that the problem on those presets may be related to wrong position
in the envelopes' trimmers?

>........now with the presets he has mentioned dont work ... .....thats why
I asked if clav2 and gt 2 were
> the only ones like this as harps2 and bass?? also have 0 sustain in the
> envelope.....in arturia land these are the bottom row presets that are
> yellow to the right of the red"brass"and to the right of
> white"organ".....

Right to Brass3 : Bass-Clavi2-Harpsi2.

Thx for this advice,Laurie I'll suggest it to my friend!

M


----- Original Message -----
From: "laurie" <laurie@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: R: Re: Anybody??Re: [yamahacs80] CS80 restoration problems


does it work properly....Why I ask is
> on the front side of the m cards is the tuning and scaling for each
> footage(on the top half) on the lower half is where level adjustments
> could be tweaked for individual waveforms and noise can occur in
> different waveforms if "any" pot is tweaked passed its intended
> location....the lower two have to do with envelope and the knobs on the
> back edge are filter cutofff, resonance level and filter envelope
> timings>
> "faxiomas@..." wrote:
>
> > Hi Laurie
> >
> > Well the guy told me specifically about problems with
> > GUITAR2 and CLAVICHORD2 and those relate, I guess, with the touch
> > response ( initial) ; for what I know, the HARPSICHORD2 doesn't have a
> >
> > pre-cabled velocity response ( by ear ), and ELECTRIC PIANO relates to
> >
> > Channel-I with the consequence that M-16 should be affected instead...
> >
> > this guy told me about M26 itself, that is voice number 6 on Channel-
> > II....I don't think however that this problem lies in the Voice card
> > itself : I guess it must be related to the TWS board ( responsible to
> > detect the velocity value ) or the TRG-1 or TRG-3 boards ( initial
> > touch waveform generator )....
> > Cheerz
> > M
> >
> > ----Messaggio originale----
> > Da: laurie@...
> > Data: 14-mar-2006 5.07 AM
> > A:
> > <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> > Ogg: Re: Anybody??Re: [yamahacs80] CS80
> > restoration problems
> >
> > as far as the m26 card...are you sure it doesnt
> > happen to electric piano
> > and harpsicord 2 as well????
> >
> > Max Fazio wrote:
> >
> > > Please, would you give me any hint about my questions?
> > > Thx
> > > M
> > >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Max Fazio" <faxiomas@...>
> > > To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:58
> > PM
> > > Subject: [yamahacs80] CS80 restoration problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > A
> > friend of mine in Bologna is restoring a CS80 and, although it is
> > > one
> > of
> > > the last produced , it has as obvious some problems so he asked me
> > > some
> > > advices. now, since I'm not a tech, I submit these problems to
> > you....
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. On channel 1 the "Initial Level" slider seems to
> > work with a
> > > reversed
> > > polarity...the result is like the IL slider
> > behaves like the Attack
> > > Level...
> > > >
> > > > 2. the M-26 voice card has
> > problems only with presets "CLAVICHORD2"
> > > and
> > > "GUITAR2": with low
> > velocity the card doesn't produce sound whilst ,
> > > with
> > > higher
> > velocity action, the voice is played ; with user presets and
> > > panel
> > >
> > sounds the voice card M26 behaves normally.
> > > >
> > > > 3. On the M-28
> > voice card there is a background noise when the
> > > footage (
> > > CH-II )is
> > set at 2' : the Square waveform suffers from this noise when
> > > the
> > > PW
> > is set at 50% but the noise is reduced if the PW percentage is
> > >
> > increased;
> > > the Sine has the noise but the Sawtooth hasn't it
> > > >
> > > >
> > 4. the A# key on the 3rd octave doesn't respond to velocity
> > > >
> > > > 5.
> > the D1 key behaves strangely : if it's played monophonically it
> > > does
> > > respond to velocity and AT, while , if played into a chord, doesn't
> > >
> > respond
> > > any more to none of the above.
> > > >
> > > > Can you help me?
> > > >
> > Thx
> > > > Max
> > > >
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