What's interesting is the CS60 has a bit of this as well. When I first got it I was a little dissapointed. It seemed a little lackluster, until... I figured out how to play it. It comes alive when you learn how to use the aftertouch and modulations. It's subtle but amazing. I kept thinking of it like a violin; it sound like crap if you just pick up a bow and try to play it without "playing it right." But when you do play it, wow! It's still rather bizarre to me. With a synth I expect that I can just press keys and be done. Not with the CS60. I can't imagine what a CS80 would be like with poly aftertouch and more synthesis power. Another amzing synth as fars as keyboard control goes is the Roads Chroma.
BTW, with the CS60 the ribbon controller only controls pitch. Is this also the case with the CS80 or can you have it mod other things like aftertouch.
-matrix
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Rogoff
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] What it is about the CS80
Wavecomputer360 wrote:
> Hi Tim, hi Laurie,
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head... it´s the performance of the
> instrument, the way controls are laid out and the way the machine responds
> to you as a player which makes the CS80 stand out. And this is why all
> virtual emulations are pointless as the sum of it all makes it the
> instrument it is, not only the sound generation (which is rather simple,
> compared with, say, and Oberheim Xpander and such). Like Peter Forrest once
> said, other polysynths would wipe the floor with the CS80 when it comes to
> modulation routings and such but the CS80 would blow them all away when it
> comes to richness of sound and sheer performance power.
>
Most definitely! Once again, the great things about the CS-80, for me,
are the feel and poly-aftertouch of the keyboard, the ribbon (including
being able to sweep down to D.C.), the choice of sustain I & II (for
nice mono/sustained sounds on a poly-synth), the ring modulator, and
having all the performance knobs. I like the sound, but to me it's not
the big deal. Now, give me an Oberheim 8-voice SEM box controlled from
a CS-80. That instrument could caress like a feather or kill a
tyrannosaurus from a mile away...
As I've mentioned, I picked up a MIDIBoard and a Roland A-50 a while ago
to try and have a poly-aftertouch MIDI controller, but I'm still working
on restoring the A-50. How do we get Edirol (=Roland, who made the A-50
and A-80) or M-Audio to add this? Their MIDI/USB keyboards are getting
nicer all the time with more programmable knobs and sliders. How do we
convince them that there's a market (other than a few dozen of us here)?
David
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