This Could be.... you cant pitch bend a released note in Sust
I....maybe pitch control is off....
-----Original message-----
From: "Max Fazio"
faxiomas@...Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:55:07 -0700
To:
yamahacs80@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand TECHNICALLY Sustain II
Huh, do you think so?
Look, there is a SH board after the KAS which provides the pitch
voltage to the voices, was it there by a casuality? Sustain II acts
like the pitch code is sent at the same time to all the voices (at
least it looks so) while the gate is routed with a some kind of
"newest" priority (new gate steals the last one).
If "newest" is the priority the steal should happen also in Sustain I,
but it doesn't happen...could it mean that when notes are off the
pitch voltage is no more sent to the voice cards, that is a voice card
in note off is "turned off"?
M
----- Original Message -----
From: Wavecomputer360
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand TECHNICALLY Sustain II
I think Max should be awarded the "Ask the Impossible Prize 2008" :-).
I bet even the CS80´s designers didn´t think about this... it was
just a design which developed its own unexpected idiosyncracies :-).
Stephen
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----- Original Message -----
From: Max Fazio
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: [yamahacs80] Help understand TECHNICALLY Sustain II
But I'm not getting how it works in a technical way: I mean, the NANDs
before the sample and hold module should output all the gates at the
same time because of the "0" sent to the NANDs by the Sustain II
switch, and the SH circuit should hold the gate forever...how it
happens that notes release ?
M
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Curry
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II
that is exactly what I said...
-----Original message-----
From: "Max Fazio" faxiomas@...
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 200817:21:03 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II
Yes, Stephen, it does so but it's more deep: I call this effect the
"clockwise swirl in Australia", that is reverses a "steal the oldest"
into "steal the latest" note, if I understand it correctly, taking in
all the dying notes as a whole "last note"....or am I wrong, am I?
M
----- Original Message -----
From: Wavecomputer360
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II
If I remember correctly, Sustain 2 is the mode where you can use the
pitch ribbon to bend the note even when you´re keeping it sustained
using the footpedal. Sustain 1 doesn´t do this.As soon as you lift
your hands from the keyboard, the ribbon won´t be controlling the
notes anymore.
Hm, Iought to be playing my CS80 more often, I guess...
Stephen
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----- Original Message -----
From: Max Fazio
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject:[yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II
Hi all
I ask your kind help in explaining thedifference between "Sustain" I
and II.
A first question: what is the method of stealing the notes with CS80
in Sustain I, I mean, how the notes are stealed when all voices are
assigned when Sustain I is applied? Is it "steal the oldest note"?
And what about the Sustain II? Does the method change to "steal the
last played note"?
Question is: if the KAS assigns to newest note all the time, why the
envelopes do retrigger in "Sustain I" ?
Please, Kent or Chris or anybody skilled, the patents or documents on
JH's site don't help me, can you give me a simple explaination?
Thanks for your care.
Max
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