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Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Ribbon Controller

From: Richard Atkinson <rga24@...>
Date: 2007-11-19

I've had experience with Yamaha in the past when trying to obtain some of
their YM2413 low cost FM synthesis chips. Back then I wasn't in a position
to order from them in the quantity required, which is probably a good thing
because in the end I found it easy to source YM2413 chips in
already-finished devices and I would have been stuck with hundreds of nasty
FM chips!

But IG series chips are another matter, and CS-5s deserve not to be
sacrificed in order to rescue CS-80s! (In fact, what about making it a 7
voice CS-80?)

Anyway, do you have an idea what their minimum order quantity / amount
would be? Would it need to be all the same chip or could the numbers be
made up using a mix of different IG series chips?

Richard

On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:

>I can understand how no one wants' to commit to something like this,
>I sure as hell wouldn't.
>
>But lets be sensible about this please. $25 for a 153, yeah good
>luck finding that buddy. You can't get a CEM3340 for that these days.
>
>The point here is not how much they are going to cost. The point is
>that Yamaha make them or at the very least sell the die to someone
>who will and that's all. I am not taking orders or make a profit out
>of it, I am simply trying to build a voice loud enough that Yamaha
>will take full notice of. I truly care deeply about the CS80, it is
>the best synth ever made. I want these lush monsters to continue to
>be a force in music for as long as possible. Yamaha are talking bums
>on seats as you would expect, after all they are a business. Hence
>they want to know how many ic's they need to make for it to be worth
>their while. I'm just a synth tech trying to get something done
>about it.
>
>
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>--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> OK Kent. If you need to reach a minimum order quantity, my company
>> (Atkinsoft Ltd) is willing to stump up the capital in order to get
>this
>> done, and sell the chips at an appropriate price over the coming
>years.
>>
>> Please contact me in private mail if you this will help.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK
>> >
>> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG
>> >chips? These
>> >> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned
>> >process
>> >> techniques.
>> >>
>> >> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they
>simply
>> >need to
>> >> package up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yes, £40 GBP
>> >> >yes, I can ship to the states
>> >> >yes, they are easy to fit.
>> >> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
>> >> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not
>have
>> >to
>> >> >reajust anything on the BA board.
>> >> >
>> >> >As for VCO's
>> >> >
>> >> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a
>list
>> >of
>> >> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady
>issue
>> >> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run
>of
>> >> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on
>the
>> >> >list.
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking
>pounds,
>> >> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are
>they
>> >to
>> >> >put
>> >> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in
>that
>> >you
>> >> >can
>> >> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential,
>right
>> >is
>> >> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
>> >> >oscillator
>> >> >> chips?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong"
><kent_spong@>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
>> >before.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that
>me
>> >> >and
>> >> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
>> >Level
>> >> >3's.
>> >> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs
>was
>> >> >really
>> >> >> > high.
>> >> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
>> >> >> >
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