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Subject: Re: [PolySix] my bad...

From: Bob Grieb <bobgrieb@yahoo.com>
Date: 2015-12-18

http://www.tauntek.com/PolySix.htm

Please check out this page on my site for what I am selling and for how much. I do sort of vaguely remember a pause
in the arp when changing direction, but didn't try to find it or change it in the code. At that time, I was trying to preserve the exact
behavior of their code. Could look at changing that, I guess.

Bob


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On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PolySix] my bad...
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 1:20 PM

Also, I should ask.. If you fully
recreated the key assigner, how much do you sell them for?
Chris here has just mentioned his! Thanks Chris!!! But Bob,
I do wonder if since you're so familiar with the
programming, you've noticed that there is a slight
timing lag when the arp starts coming back down after going
up. It was consistently annoying to me, but maybe it was
just mine. And possibly one had to be doing pretty long and
wide arp's to recreate the issue.. But it would reach
the top and upon restarting itself to come back down there
was like 30-50 msec delay before initial downward note
started. It would miss the downbeat. And it was a repeat of
the blast pitch so there'd always be a funny subtle
stutter at the top. Have you ever had that? It seemed like a
digital issue to me which is why I ask. Has anyone ever had
this?
On Dec 18, 2015 1:12 PM, jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com
wrote:
Hmm. It was indeed on the west coast
until about 2010. But the MIDI board it had was inserted in
series, between the output multipin of keybed and original
input multipin receptacle at that point into pcb. So nothing
was actually removed. So maybe I have some names mixed up
here.


On Dec 18, 2015 12:30
PM, "Bob Grieb bobgrieb@yahoo.com
[PolySix]" <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









I did sell a board, to Greg M. Did your Poly Six
vacation in CA?



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On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com
[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [PolySix] anyone have an IC6 (key assigner 8049
217) left over from KIWI install?

To: "PolySix@yahoogroups.com"
<PolySix@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 12:10 PM



Well that's good news.

Please pardon my ignorance of your device this is for,
in

fact I think my old polysix was midi modd'ed by you
Bob

so i should know this already (i'd bought it from

someone who had it done by you).. But for what product
of

yours are you referring to? You have a replacement IC6 or
a

whole board? 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at

12:04 PM, Bob Grieb bobgrieb@yahoo.com

[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















You are incorrect in saying that noone has ever

extracted the Poly Six key assigner code.



As I mentioned in an earlier post, my PIC code is a
direct

port of that code. I take the 8049 instruction



and map it to the equivalent PIC instruction. I did
have

to add a little delay in a few places as the PIC is



much faster, but aside from that it's the same. I
also

added MIDI note on and off, but that was a pretty



small change.







Bob Grieb







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On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com

[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [PolySix] anyone have an IC6 (key assigner
8049

217) left over from KIWI install?



To: "PolySix@yahoogroups.com"

<PolySix@yahoogroups.com>



Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 11:59 AM











 







































Thanks Florian,I'm



actually expecting the DIY arp to be a difficult

situation



but one worth pursuing, albeit with some patience and
no



guarantee it'll end up working.My setup

has



changed and i'm gearing up to abandon computers and

midi



altogether. To play the arp, i'll be wanting to
create

a



miniature keyboard using dozens of small momentary

buttons,



and then (and i know this might be tough) have the
output

of



the arp able to go to monosynth cv/gate. It would of

course



be nice to be able to have the output be switchable

between



V/oct and H/V, but V/oct would be preferred if only
one.



However is that's accomplished, external conversion



would be possible at that point.



When i used the arp on the polysix,



i almost always just set the synth into "monosynth



mode" which was just by using the chord function

for



just one note. Then it would only ever trigger the same



voice over and over. So this would be the goal for the

diy



arp circuit, to create a purely trigger/cv/gate

situation



but only ever for one voice at output. I don't even

have



a poly synth anymore.



And as for the tuubutec arp



situation, and others, i'm pretty sure that the IC6



program information has never been extracted by anyone.

So



all of the arps out there are approximations, probably



including the korg plugin. They may be close, and

probably



all awesome in their own regards. And maybe i'm
naive

to



think that the original is superior since i haven't



actually used the Kiwi/Tubbu/etc versions and they



definitely have wonderfully committed designers behind

them.



But it's worth trying to resurrect an original
since



i'm already in love with the darn thing. call me a



romantic.











On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at



11:30 AM, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de



[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:































































 







































Hello J,















you are of course right about how wonderful the

arpeggiator



in the P6







is, but still there is the question: what
soundgenerator

do



you want to







control with it? You have to rebuild the complete

Voiceboard



including







the VCOs!















The CPU and the D/A converter output a multiplexed



"nearly V/Oct"







voltage without any trimming. If you control a normal



CV-Synth with this







voltage, it will sound like "cats chant"

(german



saying). The trimming







happens within a common exponentiator for all voices
and



then is







demulitiplexed as six V/Hz voltages. The VCOs of the P6

are



V/Hz (this







is, why the P6 is that amazing stable in relative
tune).















If you want the P6-Arpeggiator and want it to send



MIDI-NOtes, then get







the tubbutec CPU for the P6 (https://tubbutec.de/modypoly/).



You may use







it nearly standalone and it will send the Arpeggio via



MIDI-Out and(!)







will read the notes from MIDI-In.















Florian















Am 18.12.2015 um 17:17 schrieb James Matthew Smith







jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com



[PolySix]:







>







> To be honest to you too, I personally find the

polysix



arpeggiator to







> be very unique in the way that it chooses notes

when



multiple ranges







> of octaves are held down.







>















































































































































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