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Subject: Re: [PolySix] MG / LFO Q1 transistor replacement.

From: <josh.nursing@gmail.com>
Date: 2014-03-15

Old Crow has crazy mods up his sleeves, but he's too busy playing with Oberheim and Yamaha CS-80 hacks and goodies now :P :P :P

My thoughts: the SSM2044 datasheet do suggest you should use the inverting input for a second oscillator, but you have to build a 3dB difference so that the oscs do not cancel completely when out-of-phase.

That's all fine, but I have checked all the schematics of synths using the SSM2044 and none of them use that inverting input, which is strange. I've looked at Waldorf, Siel/Opera, Korg Trident, etc...

Most use that to remove offset from the first input. I also more-or-less remember Olivier Gillet (of Mutable Instruments) writing about some issues with offset on the SSM2044 at the time he was designing that filter board for the Shruthi-1 (said filter board is since discontinued but I believe I saved schematics somewhere).

So we're faced with two things: the original SSM advice of using -IN for the second osc, and also no practical implementation as such, probably because of that offset issue.

So Chip, it's very worthwhile if you managed to test it. I actually was going to do the same with a single voice until I zapped my Arduino Uno!

In the meantime, I checked Johannes' Noise mod and he just mixes in with Osc 1 through a 33K resistor. If I'm not mistaken, in the Trident and some other synth with several 'oscs' before the filter stage, they do the same.

I guess both work, and the mixing one is very easy and we're 100% confident it should work since there are real-world implementations. The other solution of using -IN could be less than ideal despite the original recommendation because of that Offset issue.

I may test using the simple mixing solution, first with Noise, then with inputs to each filter. I should be getting some 33K resistors soon.