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Subject: RE: [PolySix] Re: cleaning polysix key contacts

From: "Andrew Jury" <andy@networkjabber.com>
Date: 2009-02-22

Hi Oli,



I guess it was just one of those 'off the cuff' late night thoughts I have
from time to time. It just strikes me that if I had a bag of 'new' Polysix
key contacts for sale I think they would sell out very quickly (or would
they?) I am sure everyone dreads the fiddly cleaning of 61 contacts or
gluing on bits of tin foil or whatever the best way of patching these up at
the moment is. I don't have an plans to do this as you might have to have a
million made to recoup the costs or the R and D outlay might be thousands of
dollars against what you could reasonable charge for a new one. In an idea
world I also like to have key caps and switch frames remanufactured too, but
I fear this would also be just as unviable!



Cheers,

Andy



From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Oliver Fairhall
Sent: 22 February 2009 09:42
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: cleaning polysix key contacts



Hi Andrew,

Are you sure there would need to be a replica made? I thought it may be
possible to replace these with a standard part from a modern keypad, or
similar. This type of contact pad is still used a lot. It may not be
easy to find these for small quantity sale (of course, 10,000 is a
different matter). Existing parts would not likely have quite the right
dimensions, but I doubt the dimensions would be too critical (I think a
little narrower radius, thicker or thinner would all be fine).

In the next couple of weeks, I will meet with the supervisor from my old
job, who gets keypads made for HF radios. His rubber keypads come as a
single piece, to his design, from an outsourced fab plant. He may be
able to give me some pointers for this (though maybe not). I'll post
back here if I get a result.

BTW, IIRC, these pads are rubber, with a coating of conductive silicon
or metalised powder adhered to the surface. As the conducting layer
would only be a surface treatment, I imagine that one could wear it out,
or accidentally clean it off. Has anyone had experience with this?

My keyboard has been bad for years, and I haven't yet found a
satisfactory solution. I haven't felt like buying one of the not so
cheap re-coating compounds. I'll try the lighter fluid next time I open
the synth.

Cheers,

Oli

On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 23:09 +0000, Andrew Jury wrote:
> Ha!
>
> Just don't let anyone ever smoke near it! Only joking! I had a very
> intermittent Polysix keyboard in a while back and no end of using IPA
> would make a great deal of difference to the contacts. I ended up using
> this stuff:
>
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?
> method=getProduct&R=2638089
>
> This is, used in the right amounts, seems to be a good solution for
> cleaning both the contacts and PCB pads. It's the type of thing you
> would normally use on high voltage switch gear and the such like. The
> keyboard is now still working about 5 months after it was last
> serviced. I think, like you have noted, sometime you just need
> something a little stronger than IPA. In this case it is a trade off
> between something that works without causing any damage or so strong it
> starts dissolving things.
>
> I wonder if we took a set of these contact pads to a component
> manufacturer and asked then to build a replica what the minimum
> production run would be to make it a viable task. If we had 10,000 made
> I'd bet they would all sell!
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"wasteking1" <wasteking1@...> wrote:
> >
> > the last time i cleaned my key contacts i used alchohol and a q-tip,
> > but the results didnt last and were inconsistant. Some notes
> > were 'sluggish',almost had a delay, others had to be hit multiple
> > timrs...... So I recently cleaned them again, this time using
> LIGHTER
> > FLUID (ronsonal) and a q-tip. I was very careful not to get the
> fluid
> > on the laquer of the pc-board, Interestingly, i got a black residue
> > from many of the round magnets on the q-tip,(but not all) . i NEVER
> > got any signs of residue using alchohol. Now the keys work great,
> all
> > instant contacts, no sluggish response. Perhaps this stronger solvent
> > is more effective? seems that way to me.
> >
>
>
>
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