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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates

From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
Date: 2010-10-10

I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music. 

Mark

--- On Sun, 10/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 11:56 AM

 

I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues.
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> Mark
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote:
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> > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
> > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
> >
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