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Entangled was one of my favorite Genesis tunes….I will have to get it!  I would be surprised if there were any tape based machines

used.  He used other samples in the first one but who knows.  Genesis (mainly Tony Banks) had enough problems touring with them

and in a couple of interviews he expressed a blatant dislike for the tron much like many of the early tron players did once they had an

alternative.  These days many of the alternatives are indistinguishable once sitting in a mix.  Even the original  trons were usually buried

in distortion, reverb, echo, phasers, etc. so the true sound of the machine was often obfuscated in the final mix.  It would be interesting to

find out for sure what the whole keyboard lineup was for both of his releases.  He may have gone old school but his first release sounded

pretty much like a modern production so I kind of doubt it.  If anyone knows what was actually used it would be interesting to hear.

 

 

Gary

 

 

From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kinchmusic
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:19 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Revisited 2 - Tron?

 

 

Entangled on the new revisited sounds amazing. The outro sounds even better than atott IMO. There is definitely tron of some description happening, and Steve has more than made up some of the mixing injustices of the past. I wasn't a fan of the first revisited tbh, but this one is a step up IMO.

Andy Kinch

 

On 15 Oct 2012, at 19:23, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Genesis stopped using the Mellotron by the 80s.  I don’t think there is any Mellotron of any Hackett’s solo albums. 

(I could be wrong but can’t find any documentation of it being used.  It is impossible to reliably tell the tape machines

from the “non-tape” machines once they are in a recording.  I see them more in the new young kid groups who are

also using vintage guitars and amps and in the small audience prog rock groups.  The guys that made the Mellotron

known have pretty much all replaced it with more modern keyboards.  Some still use the original authentic Mellotron

sound and other have regrettable (in some cases) moved away from that sound for good.  These days if you want

to hear real Mellotron then I think Mike’s tracks are the best examples of what you can creatively do with the machine

that exist.  Most other music you have heard for the last three decades or so is a sample or model of the Mellotron sound. 

IMHO (don’t hurt for being pretty)J  You could probably ask on the Hackett forum and get more information about

it or maybe Martin knows more about it.  I have the “Watcher of the Skies Genesis Revisited” CD and it is quite good. 

You never hears much guitar work in genesis that featured Hackett but when he steps forward in the mix he is one

outstanding guitar player!

 

g

 

 

From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Andy Kinch
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:48 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Revisited 2 - Tron?

 

 

Anyone know whether theres any tron on Steves new Genesis Revisited 2 album?

 

Catch the stream here. Seems very tronish in places :-)

 

http://www.progrockmag.com/news/listen-to-exclusive-stream-of-steve-hacketts-genesis-revisited-ii/

 

Andy K

Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com