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Subject: Re: Youtube Orchestron demos

From: "'tronster" <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Date: 2011-02-07

Mattias:
I thought it was a 'tron riff. Very simple yet extremely effective. Gets the hair on the back of my neck standing up every time...Do you record directly to board, or from a mic'd amp?

Cheers,
Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay
>
> Boys & girls are
>
> In order...(if i remember it correctly)
>
> Optigan Guitar in 3/4 reversed in one channel forwards in the other
> Mellotron Wineglasses
> 3 Violins doubletracked
> Cello underneath.
> Orchestron violins sneaking up at the end.
> Orchestron flutes doing the cluster thing.
>
>
> // M
>
> Den 2011-02-02 16.13, skrev "'tronster" <dan_miso@...>:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mattias:
> > So the violin/cello sound on 'Boys and Girls' is Orchestron?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> , mattias <Mattias.olsson5@>
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hey kids,
> >> >
> >> > As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The
> >> > Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe
> >> it
> >> > isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great
> >> > tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when
> >> > it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the
> >> > Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the
> >> Orchestron
> >> > and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a
> >> > production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say ³ Its
> >> > sounds like an old black and white movie.² What I do is that I always
> >> > double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.
> >> >
> >> > Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar
> >> > and marimba rolls that are really great.
> >> >
> >> > Anyways.
> >> >
> >> > Youve probably all seen it before...
> >> >
> >> > But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
> >> >
> >> > The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
> >> >
> >> > // Mattias
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Den 2011-02-02 01.31, skrev "lsf5275@" <lsf5275@>:
> >> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't
> >>> imagine
> >>> > > Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he
> >>> had a
> >>> > > really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In
> >>> fact, I
> >>> > > sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have
> >>> one. And
> >>> > > I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> > > charel196@ writes:
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins
> disc
> >>>> > >> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I
> read
> >>>> > >> long ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> > >> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> , Chris Dale
> >>>> > >> <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> > Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a
> >>>>>> Mellotron) by
> >>>>>> > >>> > using what you describe below.
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> > Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was
> >>>>>> nothing bnut
> >>>>>> > >>> > marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers
> >>>>>> but it's
> >>>>>> > >>> > nonsense.
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> > There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke
> >>>>>> easy and
> >>>>>> > >>> > they stuck to the Optigan format.
> >>>>>> > >>> > All of the discs stacked in one system would have been a good
> >>>>>> idea too!!
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing
> (like Pea
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use
> a volume
> >>>>>> > >>>> pedal
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more
> >>>>>>>> realistic swells
> >>>>>> > >>>> & cut
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those
> >>>>>>>> things might
> >>>>>> > >>>> sound
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise
> filtering.
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality
> technology
> >>>>>> > >>>> (like
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio
> >>>>>>>> circuitry, and
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy
> >>>>>>>> Optigan discs)
> >>>>>> > >>>> what the
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built
> with all
> >> > the
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet
> never
> >>>>>> > >>>> having to
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control
> keyboard.
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>>>
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
>