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Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM-810 VC ADSR

From: "John Loffink" <jloffink@...>
Date: 2005-02-12

I will buy at least two of these. This module will greatly help with
dynamic articulation of sounds. I like the feature set including the
Velocity VC level, with a few suggestions...

I'd like to have simultaneous linear and logarithmic outputs - same FP real
estate and less cost than a lin/log switch or knob.

Two freely patchable attenuators works. Another option is the Evos ADSR
type VC selector which cycles through all combinations of the four CV
parameters. This requires a knob and 4 LEDs though.

http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/evos/EVOS_04.jpg

You might not need both burst and cycle switch settings. If you put a
pullup on the gate input, when you switch to burst/cycle without a gate
input you get continuous (cycle), if you have a gate input it functions as
burst.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josue Arias [mailto:josue.arias@...]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: Paul Schreiber
> Cc: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-810 VC ADSR
>
>
> I think a cycle output and trigger input would be useful, at least the
> cycle out for firing another module at the end of the envelope..
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Josue.
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:43:20 -0600, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > JH battled the flu this week and finished his simulations for the MOTM-
> 810 a VC
> > ADSR with typical MOTM over-the-top specs. Kit builders will delight at
> the
> > nearly 90 resistors, 18 transistors, 16 diodes, 15 op amps AND a blinky
> LED.
> >
> > This is how the controls/ins/outs are set ∗currently∗, and of course
> open to
> > wide (but civil) debate. No cost yet: the parts are cheap (in fact no
> single
> > part on the pcb is over 22 cents) but the ∗labor∗ on the PH side will be
> > extensive. I will say this: if I get 80 modules pre-ordered (and DO NOT
> SEND ME
> > THIS NOW!) I will get them pre-inserted like the '480s. The resistors,
> that is.
> > I have ∗no idea∗ on the final cost, but it will be over $149 but less
> than $249.
> > Remember, you are paying mainly for the front panel controls (see below)
> and the
> > labor in just amassing all these parts. But when has MOTM disappointed
> in our
> > over-the-top-ness :)
> >
> > 2U wide
> >
> > CV inputs
> > A, D, S and R CVs (-5V to +5V range. A positive voltage ADDS to the
> panel's
> > setting, a negative voltage subtracts the setting)
> > Velocity CV (set up for 0 to +5V)
> >
> > Outputs
> >
> > Dynamic EG Out: the VCA'd version of the positive envelope. This is not
> for
> > passing audio through, it's so that the Velocity out of the MOTM-650 can
> scale
> > the overall amplitude of the envelope.
> >
> > Positive and Negative EG Out. Times are <1ms to over 24sec for A, D and
> R.
> >
> > Gate IN
> >
> > MODE switch: Normal/Burst/Cycle. In Cycle, the EG internally retriggers
> at the
> > end of the Release and re-Attacks. This happens no matter what GATE is
> doing, so
> > it's like the Serge DSG (a wacky LFO thingy). In BURST, the EG CYCLEs as
> long as
> > GATE is high, then it releases and stops.
> >
> > Now, the astute folks will see a lack of input attenuators of the 4 CV
> ins.
> > Why...no fit! But I can add 2 general uncommitted attenuators that you
> can patch
> > in if you need them. Also keeps the price down, because if you want 8
> pots, 9
> > jacks, a switch and a LED you are in the $300 module range....so be
> careful what
> > you wish for :)
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Paul S.
> >
> >
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