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I am trying once again to figure out why my HAWK wont accept NRPN's from hardware controllers.
I think I found the problem.

Here's a copy of a recent monitor of a few of my hardware controllers that the HAWK refuses to react to..  notice it will send CC98/99 msgs at first or when I move the knob slow in purple?  But when I move a knob quickly, I get the code in green.

Maudio Oxygen V2 NRPN LSB=05, MSB=0,
16 Global=00 in all cases on the HAWK

B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 01
B0 06 04
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 07
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 08
B0 06 09
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 0A
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 0B
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 0D
B0 06 0E
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 0F
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 12
B0 06 14
B0 06 15
B0 06 17
B0 06 18
B0 06 1A
B0 06 1D
B0 06 1F
B0 06 20
B0 06 23
B0 06 24
B0 06 26
B0 06 28
B0 06 29
B0 06 2B
B0 06 2D
B0 06 2E
B0 06 30
B0 06 31
B0 06 33



Maudio Ozonic, same behavior

B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 3E
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 3F
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 40
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 41
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 42
B0 62 05
B0 63 00
B0 06 43
B0 06 44
B0 06 45
B0 06 46
B0 06 47
B0 06 48
B0 06 49
B0 06 4A
B0 06 4B
B0 06 4C
B0 06 4D
B0 06 4E
B0 06 4F
B0 06 50
B0 06 51
B0 06 52
B0 06 53
B0 06 54
B0 06 55
B0 06 56
B0 06 57

I have a Evolution X-Session controller that also exhibits the same msg'ing behavior.
It seems they will send just the first to CC's 98/99, then stream only CC 06 until you stop and begin again.
I can get all three CC's to Tx from the controller when I turn them very slowly, yet still no reaction from my HAWK.

But when I set up FL Studio's "MIDI OUT" plugin to send NRPN message from it's GUI controller, I get the code below and it works as intended with the LED displaying "CE 15 ∗∗"   (∗∗= value) and it adjusts the PWM for the LFO square wave.

FL Studio 11 "MIDI OUT" Plugin's NRPN output
Pulse width parameter on HAWK

B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 19
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1A
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1B
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1C
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1D
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1E
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1F
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 20
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1F
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1E
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1D
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1B
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 1A
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 19
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 18
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 17
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 16
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 15
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 13
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 12
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 11
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 10
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 0F
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 0D
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 0C
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 0B
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 0A
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 09
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 08
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 07
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 06
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 05
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 04
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 03
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 02
B0 63 00
B0 62 44
B0 06 01

I notice each time it sends CC 98 & 99

is there a way to change the firmware to accept the streaming values from CC 06?

So many controllers work this "one time" CC98/99 msg with streaming CC 06 value right afterward moving a knob that is idle  vs. the 98/99/06 msg each time.

I have not found a controller that will do the 98/99/06 combo each time and I now have an Akai MPK61, Maudio Ozonic, Maudio Oxygen 8 v2 and the Evolution X-Session.. all claim NRPN control, yet none will work with the HAWK :(

I am curious what the output of a Behringer BRC or BFC2000's NRPN msgs look like since someone has gotten it to work.

Please help with this if at all possible.  My X-Session fits on top of the blank area of my HAWK perfectly and it'd be nice to use it w/out complicated combinations to get the CC22-30 CC's to access a bank of parameters one at a time.  I'd rather NRPN each knob to my choosing.

-Blaine