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Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Dead 800

From: Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...>
Date: 2009-02-25

If you have goop from what might have been a battery leak then things can look OK but turn out to be alot worse than you think.

Nevertheless, you might be OK. A scope is going to help alot.

For example, IO/M signal will spend most of it's time low because it is only high for IO. In the Poly, all of the hardware is mapped into normal memory except for the 81C55. So the IO/M signal is almost 100% low. But a scope will show you thos tiny little 20uS high periods. That would tell you that the CPU was actually doing something as opposed to completely comatose.

Mike.




From: selloutdesigns <aah_public@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:57:05 AM
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Dead 800

Took another look internally last night. There was some sticky gunk on
some of the boards which may have been from a battery compartment leak
at some point, but it cleaned up fine and there appears to be no trace
or component damage. As best I can tell, all the rails are showing
correct voltages. Strangely I found that the rails on the main board
differed slightly from the smaller board (KLM-598), being about 4.6V.
However, adjusting VR1 slightly boosted this voltage to 5V, while
causing voltage rails on the main board to be slightly above 5V. I am
guessing this is all within tolerable range though.

I also took voltage measurements on all the pins on IC24 (M80C85A) and
IC25 (M81C55). I see a voltage on all the output pins of IC24
connecting to the input pins of IC25. However, the output pins of IC25
(which feed the display driver circuit) all show 0V. IC24 and 25 both
are powered. I did notice that IO/M (both), RESOUT (IC24) and RES
(IC25) were showing 0V. Is it correct to assume that if IO/M is always
low, that IC25 will never output any data? What would be keeping IC24
from toggling IO/M to high?

Thanks in advance for any insight/guidance. Anyone have scans of a
Poly 800 Service Manual they can share? :)

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@ ...>
wrote:

>
> Aaron,
>
> you should check all voltage rails. especially +5 and -5 volt rails.
>
> The power supply of the Poly is somewhat reliable. Note the "somewhat".
>
> Sometimes it does fail or drift enough to cause Poly's to die.
>
> If you don't have a display showing then tape and patches etc are 99
percent NOT going to work.
>
> Even when memory is corrupted due to battery failure, those
display's will at least show something.
>
> Also, I would give the thing a complete internal thorough check out
looking for battery acid damage, broken wires, misaligned or misplaced
connectors etc.
>
> Sometimes it's the simple things.
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: selloutdesigns <aah_public@ ...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:48:45 AM
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Dead 800
>
>
> I gave this a try on my dead Poly, but no luck. It seems that VR1
> adjusts the +5V rail voltage and subsequently the supply voltage to
> the CPU, but in my case it seems like all the chips are getting
> adequate power.
>
> <<aaRoN>>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, Russ <russdaren@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > I had this problem a while ago and got her back upby fiddling with
> one of the VR pots. Cant recal which one did it. But one of them
> seemed to control voltage for the CPU board. It wnet from no display,
> to garbled, to functioning just fine ever since.
> >
>