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Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Velocity sensitive

From: "electrohead2000@..." <electrohead2000@...>
Date: 2009-01-09

Your priority list looks good. Has anyone mentioned Velocity > MG depth?
Also, I might have missed something earlier, does the Hawk kit disable the sequencer?


On Jan 9, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:

The only part of this list that is not doable given the CPU cycle constraints is probably the one most ppl might want the most which is...

Velocity to Amplitude. I can't do this because it would require a massive rewrite of the code and a massive increase in CPU cycles (of which there none to be had). I don't think it's worth doing break point, sustain level etc and the math is so complex, I don't think I want to take it on anyway.

The rest I will parse through and think about, although most of them look doable on immediate examination.

What's more important though, is that everyone that has a HAWK kit now should try to put all of these into some sort of priority.

So here I post the list again (with my suggested priority) but now can people reorder them and see if we can come up with a consensus on what should be done first.

Vel > filter cutoff
Vel > resonance

Vel > FM-800
Vel > EG1/2 attack
Vel > EG1/2 decay
Vel > harmonics mapping
Vel > oscillator interval
Vel > oscillator detune
Vel > LFO speed
Vel > LFO wave change
Vel > EG1/2 release

Mike.


From: David Mochen <davidmochen@ hotmail.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:06:51 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] best hardware arpeggiator

Hi,
 
∗Vel > Eg 1, 2, 3, and 4 Amplitude (not sure if this is the best techie way to describe it but, basically, the harder you hit, the louder it sounds/the more the VCF opens up/the more EG4 affects global pitch/noise)
 
∗Vel > all EG steps (att, dec, brk p, slope, sus, rel) or at least some of them
 
∗Vel > filter cutoff and reso
 
∗Vel > FM-800
 
∗Vel > oscillator interval
 
∗Vel > oscillator detune
 
∗Vel > LFO speed
 
∗Vel > LFO wave change
 
∗Vel > "muting/unmuting" the different harmonics? Say, play lightly, only first harmonic is heard... play harder, a more sawtooth-like sound
is heard as the remaninig 3 harmonics are engaged. Dunno if it is feasible, though.
 
(if any other ideas come to me, i'll let you know)
 
BTW, all the above should be possible to be assigned both positive and negative modulation on the targets. Also, some sort of keyboard tracking would be cool.
 
Who knows? maybe the Atomahawk 800 will end up as a poor-man Oberheim Matrix 12? Ha, it feels so nice just asking The Man for more... like a kid in a candy store...
 
dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] best hardware arpeggiator

OK, this is great feedback.

I've been making good progress going back over my code and collapsing certain parts of it into reusable functions so that the memory use is actually dropping right now.

I also have been thinking about the ARP too. It is not on the top of my list that is for sure. I think a simple ARP is a good idea for those of us who don't use computers or a hardware sequencer. But how many of us are in that position?

Since I was able to get the sustain pedal working and actually change the EG1/2 sustain in real time according to the pedal, it is now quite possible to change any part of the EG parameters according to velocity.

I believe I can do the same for EG3.

So I can see that altering attack on EG1/2 or EG3 might be things we'd like to change according to velocity.

What other parameters might we want changed according to velocity?

Mike




From: David Mochen <davidmochen@ hotmail.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 9:09:53 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] best hardware arpeggiator

i'd say the HAWK-800 is well on the way to "killer" without a sequencer or
arpeggiator. somewhat disregarding my own personal wish-list (LCD & sysex
for panel events), i think velocity sensitivity is the ∗only∗ thing the
kit is "missing".

--
...atom
 
100% agree.
 
Dave


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