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Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Hawk-800 Feature Idea

From: Alex Drinkwater <the_voder@...>
Date: 2008-11-11

Hiya!

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:

> From: Atom Smasher <atom@...>
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Hawk-800 Feature Idea
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 7:59 PM
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Alex Drinkwater wrote:
>
> > 1. A dedicated '303-style' bassline sequencer
> mode.
> ==============
>
> using an MC-202 to sequence external gear via CV/gate has
> always been a
> cool trick...
>
> doing that doesn't require mods to a half-baked
> sequencer, though. a good
> 303 emulation can be done simply with a key-on legato (not
> sure if that's
> the proper term) and proper routing of velocity to
> "accent" (with whatever
> you want to assign to accent, and just use two velocity
> values to control
> accent off and accent on).
>
> so if the hawk-800 has a key-on legato feature (should be
> easy if it
> doesn't already have it?) then you can get a 303
> behavior out it... but
> don't count on 303 sounds. it would probably sound more
> like using an
> MC-202 to control CV/gate gear... but with the addition of
> an accent
> feature.
>
> the same trick works on plenty of other synths, ranging
> from the casio
> CZ-101 (but only the CZ-1 deals with velocity/accent) to
> some of the
> better hardware 303 emulators.

All true. The Hawk mod does have a 'Portamento Mono' mode, which is essentially a legato effect, as you describe, with automatic portamento between overlapping notes. It's very cool. There's no equivalent to the 'accent' effect though, but I can't imagine it being massively difficult to add. Mike would know more about that though..

The only problem with Portamanento Mono mode is that you can't really use it with the builtin sequencer, as (as far as I know), you can't record overlapping notes. You CAN make a note longer than one step, but you can't make notes actually everlap (ie force a note not to retrigger while another note is added at the next step), so there's no way to actually get that slide effect with the sequencer.

Incidentally, as I said, I'm not looking to reinvent the wheel, it's just I think the 303 has a couple of nice features that would also be cool to add to the Poly/EX-800.

a|x

PS
I'm uploading an example of the current Hawk mod Portamento Mono mode in use, sequenced from an d recorded in Ableton Live, with realtime control-tweaking from my Novation XStation controller.

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