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Subject: Re: What was your controller?

From: "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...>
Date: 2008-05-22

Zoinky,

This is very useful information. I am not sure how we're going to fit
all of the MIDI CC's in to fit across all of the parameters given that
the total number of available MIDI controllers is less than 127. But
at least some of the parameters will have to be controlled via NRPN.
But that's OK because the EG parameters alone take 18 (24 if you
include the fourth EG under development).

The octave, waveform and harmonics will use a single specific CC for
each DCO. So octave will need two bits, waveform one bit and the
harmonics four bits. That fits nicely into 7 bits so the entire DCO
can be set up in one MIDI CC.

All the extended parameters are going to get tricky though.

I'll continue to chew over this for a week or so before I start to get
the full picture worked out.

I just picked up a Novation Remote LE controller. It looks like you
can assign NRPN's as well as CC's to any of the sliders or buttons on
it. So when the controller shows up at my door, I'll really be keen to
get the Poly and EX CC's implmented in the software.

I spent last night playing with the FM-MOD and it works really well
when you turn the master volume down on DCO2 and set the FM DCO source
to DC02. That way, you just have DCO1 producing the sound and DCO2
modulates the VCF. Portamento mode with the FM-MOD is absolutely
gorgeous. And the VCF MG being selectable as sawtooth up or down
instead of just triangle makes it even better.

These digital pot's work great too. No zipper effect at all. At least
not with the FM mod. I have to set up another digital pot to control
the resonance (aka Moog Slayer) and see if there's any zipper there.
But with 128 positions on top of the original Korg's 16 (which by the
way, I think I can expand to 99) I doubt there will be any zipper at all.

Enough rambling for now.

Mike.



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "zoinky420" <zoinky420@...> wrote:
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 21 May 2008, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> > > I know I've asked you this before but I am looking for a decent
> MIDI
> > > controller on ebay, what was the controller you had?
> > ==============
> >
> > i use a peavy PC-1600x. check out the differences between the 1600
> and the
> > 1600x, and the 1600 might do everything you need (such as testing
> the CCs
> > on the 800mk3).
> >
>
> The Peavey is the best, but it's also pricey (around $150). I picked
> up a JL Cooper Fadermaster for $50 off ebay a while ago, and while it
> only has half the faders of the Peavey, fewer configurations in ROM
> and RAM, and a single-digit LED rather than a backlit LCD screen, it
> still does everything I need it to, other than having only one patch
> memory for synths controlled by NRPN or SYSEX. (which is why I sure
> hope the Hawk's controls will use CC not NRPN!)
>
> There's also the knob-based Phat Boy and Doepfer Pocket Dial but I
> have no experience with them. Those are the 'originals' and used to
> be somewhat rare until virtual analog software became all the rage
> and every company started releasing external controller boxes.
> There's a Behringer one, BCR2000, which uses knobs and retails for
> $130-$150. It'd be nice if they had a cheaper version with fewer
> controls. BTW, the Behringer, unlike the JL Cooper and I think the
> Peavey, as well, has all its controller ranges stuck at 0-127. So
> that's kind of annoying when you've got parameters in a synth like
> the Poly 800 that go from 1-9, or whatever. With the Fadermaster
> (and like I said, the 1600, too I think), you can set the range of
> the fader to match the ranges of the synth's parameters.
>