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Alan and all newcomers to the list,
To all of the newcomers, I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing you
all a hearty welcome!
If you would like more detailed information on the kit that will soon
be made available, you can go to:
http://patrioticduo .tripod.com/ korgpoly800ex800 mkiii/index. html
There you will find the list of new features as well as my blog of the
progress being made. Eventually, this is also where the kit
construction and installation instructions will be. The trickiest part
of the installation of the kit will be removing the original EPROM
socket and one of the 16 pin chips. Other than that, the kit will be
an easy bolt on addition. I haven't worked out the exact price yet but
it will be somewhere close to $100 USD.
I originally started this project because my wife told me to find a
hobby that has no chance of ever making any money so that I would then
not convert the hobby into a money making enterprise. The irony is
that I've just about done exactly that. One of these days I am going
to get back to writing some music (that was the original idea). But in
the meantime, silly me went poking around in the Poly 800 and realized
I could probably improve it significantly. So here we are 14 months
later and just about to put the kit onto the market.
I must say, I have had such an enjoyable time working on this project.
I've learned so much about the complexities of controlling sound
generation within the confines of software. I have also come to
appreciate and respect the engineers who put the Poly 800 together
back in 1983. It is quite remarkable how they created such a great
design. I have also "met" a great bunch of people on this list.
Without their constant input and feedback I would not have made such
rapid progress nor would I have dreamed up some of the features that
are now part of the software.
I still have to wonder at my level of sanity for having decided to
take this on. But now that I've come this far I just have to finish.
Speaking of which, I finished another feature today. You can now
reverse the delay mode on both LFO's. So now you can modulate until
the delay expires and then stop modulation or you can wait for the
timer to expire and then modulate (as in the original). This means you
can modulate the DCO or VCF for a brief moment at note on and then
drop off the MG when the LFO delay expires.
And, this email is getting way too long but also, I sometimes wonder
if I am talking too much on this list. If anyone is feeling like I
talk too much about the kit just let me know and I'll tone it down a bit.
Yes, the idea is to provide MIDI CC's for every parameter. Some will
be able to be changed in real time while notes are on. Some will reset
the voices. I am thinking that I'll use CC's for those that do not
reset the voices and use SYSEX for those that do.
Mike.
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, Alan Currall <alan@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya Mike,
>
> Forgive me for coming in half way through this, I've only just bought
> a Poly 800 and subscribed to the list. I've tried trawling the
> message archive, but there's just too much there for me to find the
> beginning of this thread. Can I just ask a few questions that might
> also be of interest to others in my position?
>
> I realise that you're re-writing the brain of the P800 (a courageous
> undertaking indeed) and I just wondered how any of us lesser mortals
> might be able to take advantage of this great evolutionary leap?
>
> The kit that you mention, is that some kind of hardware modification
> that you'll eventually be selling?
>
> Also, do all these continuous controller additions that you're making
> mean that eventually every parameter printed on the top panel of the
> synth will be editable using a midi control surface (such as my
> currently redundant BCR2000) instead of having to use the numerical
> key pad and value up/down buttons?
>
> Finally, I'd just like to add that I think it's amazing that you have
> both the enthusiasm and ability to support such a long-in-the- tooth
> budget synth. If only the manufacturers had this kind of loyalty.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2008, at 9:24PM, korgpolyex800 wrote:
>
> > Q: Would it be possible to do such changes when the other music MIDI
> > data are sent to the instrument? I mean in real time when instrument
> > will perform music? It would be interesting to change parameters "on
> > fly" and go continously from one sound to the other, kind of
> > morphing...
> >
> > A: any parameter that exists now that does not reset the voices will
> > be able to be changed on the fly. Parameters (for example: octave
> > change) that reset the voices will also be reset when sysex (or
> > controller) is received via MIDI. For example VCF, resonance,
> > harmonics, EG parameters etc do NOT reset voices so they can be
> > changed while voices are working.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, Daniel Forro <dan.for@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Mike,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your detailed answers.
> > >
> > > > A: Yes, I will be implementing sysex for every single parameter so
> > that you
> > > > can change the temporary edit patch.
> > >
> > > Even so, that's quite perfect, more than expected! Would it be
> > possible to
> > > do such changes when the other music MIDI data are sent to the
> > instrument? I
> > > mean in real time when instrument will perform music? It would be
> > > interesting to change parameters "on fly" and go continously from
> > one sound
> > > to the other, kind of morphing...
> > > >
> > > > Q: Not for EX800... joystick, local keyboard etc
> > > >
> > > > A: There is a global parameter setting where you select the device
> > type
> > > > (0=Poly800 MK1, 1=EX800, 2=Poly800 MK2). If you select EX800 then
> > all Joystick
> > > > and keyboard functions are turned off.
> > >
> > > Clever.
> > > >
> > > > A: Yes, a full two octaves more in the playing range. But ignores
> > parameters
> > > > 11 and 21 (they are automatically set to be in the middle (2)).
> > Once again,
> > > > this feature is turned on and off using a global parameter.
> > >
> > > So if I understand well, total range of the instrument is the same,
> > but we
> > > can use it without switching feet setting (16, 8, 4)?
> > > >
> > > > A: Yes, you can turn sync mode on or off using yet another global
> > parameter.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > > A: MIDI CC's to switch to Portamento mode.
> > >
> > > Oops, of course this is the best solution!
> > >
> > > > A: I use the term "Poly" to refer to pressing the "Poly" button. I
> > don't
> > > > really mean poly mode in the MIDI sense of the word.
> > >
> > > Understand.
> > >
> > > > A: I mean there is now a second LFO (called LFO2) and it modulates
> > the VCF.
> > > > While LFO1 modulates the DCO's.
> > >
> > > That's great.
> > >
> > > > Q: So LFO1 is for DCO, LFO2 for VCF?
> > > >
> > > > A: Yes, that's right. Although in the future, I am planning on
> > changing this
> > > > so that you can send either LFO1 or LFO2 into DCO MG or VCF MG.
> > >
> > > Why? Each LFO has different waveforms or some other parameter? I
> > suppose
> > > yes, because if they are the same, this possibility will have no
> > practical
> > > effect.
> > >
> > > > A: No, what I mean is you have MIDI CC's to change from "Poly" to
> > "Chord" to
> > > > "Hold" to "Portamento" modes.
> > >
> > > Which controllers have you used for this?
> > >
> > > > A: Good because I used 76, 74, and 71.
> > >
> > > Perfect, now I have found that GM2 standard uses CC 76 for
> > Vibrato rate.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Mike.
> > >
> > > So I'm really looking forward to your final product.
> > >
> > > All the best!
> > >
> > > Daniel F
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>